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SUBSMASH The Mysterious Disappearance of HM SUBMARINE AFFRAY
Commentary by Peter D Hulme on the book by Alan Gallop
Published 2007 by Sutton Publishing.
An extensive AFFRAY thread on the Submariners Forum led me to get
hold of a copy of Alan Gallop's book SUBSMASH concerning the loss of the
submarine AFFRAY in 1951. Now I have a copy and after a first read I
decided to read it again with notes about things that caught my
attention and post them on the forum. This seemed like a good idea at
the time but the notes got longer and longer requiring some serious
checking.
Ideally the commentary should be read in conjunction with the book as I
have endeavoured to present my comments on a chapter by chapter basis.
If this makes the notes long and repetitive I apologise but even one
line in the book can bring forth a lengthy pedantic response. One has to
give the author the respect of explaining why one takes issue with
things he says and quotes in this quite readable book that I think will
be of interest to submariners old and new. However while a nice well
organised flow has not been possible, I have attempted to make the text
of interest and worthwhile reading for those without a copy of the book
to hand. These are entirely my own views based on the experiences as a young man
serving in the electrical branch on 'A' class submarines like AFFRAY
coupled with a keen interest in submarines of the era in late
retirement. Without the aid of Lambert and Miller's excellent book THE
SUBMARINE ALLIANCE I could not possibly have recalled all the detail of
an 'A' class submarine nearly 60 years later, but on the whole my memory
is pretty good though stated in terms of my own view of the whole
submarine experience. I am sure others who served in these submarines
will have other views, not the least because folks are all different but
also that particular duties may well colour their memories. It would be
greatly appreciated if I could be notified of any errors I may have made
or wrong impressions given about submarines that I may have in good
faith, unintentionally created. I served on the ARTEMIS for 12 months in 1950/1951 and we were in
company with AFFRAY during the ships visits mentioned in the book. Our
First Lieutenant for most of 1950, William Kirkood, was lost as the
Training Instructor on the AFFRAY and I was in DOLPHIN Spare Crew for
few days around the date she was lost. Later I went on to be the PO
Electrician of AMPHION. The Engineer Officer of ARTEMIS gave evidence
about the 'A' Class submarines to the Board of Inquiry. So I think it can be fairly said I have reason to have more than a
passing interest in a book about this submarine disaster of so long ago.
Particularly a book that clearly does not want the matter to be left to
rest, but wants to apportion blame by inference and disturb the last
resting place of these men in the pursuit of finding the reasons for the
disaster and of course that is his privilege as it is mine to offer an
alternative view. The irony is that I could not have prepared these
notes without the considerable research put into the book by the author,
Alan Gallop. Very much a case of action bringing reaction. The relatives and the author are not the only ones who would like this
mystery solved and I am sure so would the many who served at the time or
later, on the sister ships of the AFFRAY, but I don't want to know at
the cost of bringing indignity to the remains of these men have no doubt
that others with better technical qualifications and easy access to the
archives would be able to more comprehensively review the loss of the
AFFRAY, but this is simply a commentary by a former submariner of the
time on a recently published book about the loss. Peter D Hulme 2009.
Here the book sets out that the author's aim to seek the truth about the
loss of the AFFRAY.
The Author's Boy 'Sailor' friend being a sentry on the Portsmouth
Dockyard gates was a surprise. I wouldn't have thought a lad of about 15
would be placed in this position, but there you are, there is no doubt
an explanation. When I was passing through the gates on a daily basis in
1953, the Dockyard Police were in charge.
I also thought the centre of operations was at HMS DOLPHIN usually
entered from the public street via HMS VERNON. As for the Boy 'Sailor ' telling the author about an RN officer 'taking'
the Dockyard Gate records - is a conspiracy being suggested? What was
there to conspire about - we are never told. The Dock Yard Police are of some significance in relation to my comments
in relation to Chapter 3, about sabotage. It is at the end of the foreword that the first mention of submarine
trim briefly appears and to quote "Which is, perhaps, why HMS AFFRAY met
the unfortunate end it did in the spring of 1951". This theme is
repeated without any satisfactory development and does not appear in the
final chapter summarising the author's outstanding concerns. I don't know whether or not there are archived records that 'A' class
hydroplanes could occasionally jam, but a search might be revealing.
Losing trim rather badly with steep angles forward or aft was certainly
not an everyday incident on the 'A' class but in my experience, it
happened three times that I can still remember well.
The acknowledgements are quite impressive with some well known names,
not the least the excellent staff of the RNSM at Gosport.
1951: POST WAR BLUES, RADIO TIMES.
Difficult to see the relevance of the content of this chapter mainly
about civilian post war Britain other than to introduce the film MORNING
DEPARTURE with a mention of the loss of the TRUCULENT. In this chapter
it would been valuable to read somebody like Eric Groves and then
outline the financial restrictions that were being placed on the Navy at
that time when quite quickly after winning a major war and placing many
ships in reserve or scrapping them, the threat of the Red Navy appeared.
Large sums had to be spent on research to benefit from the many lessons
learnt in the war, with equipment designed hurriedly on an empirical
basis, needing a firm scientific base to move forward, particularly in
the field of Anti-Submarine Warfare. The military politics of the atom bomb
delivery are well known.
THE SILENT SERVICE AND HIS MAJESTY'S SUBMARINE AFFRAY.
A potted history of submarines in the RN with various items of submarine
trivia that might well be of interest to a reader unfamiliar with
submarines. On page 11 the usual myth about 'hot bunking ' is trotted out - not a
practical system for a boat designed for reasonable crew comfort on long
patrols. And the author knows all this as he tells us on page 11 that
the 'A' class were designed for tropical climates. As warships in general go, the A class were roomy and reasonably
habitable with little cause for claustrophobia. Looking back, the lower
decks on a KVG battleship were in my opinion far more crowded and
uncomfortable with no daylight. Like all smaller ships, comfort quickly
disappears in bad weather, submarines sometimes had the option of diving
for a while to prepare and eat meal. The author's quoting Edward Young
later in the book confirms the surprising air of spaciousness and rough
comfort, and Young was referring to a submarine smaller than the AFFRAY.
The growing number of long trips into Northern Waters with much time
spent in transit on the surface in very bad weather was very
debilitating for everybody and frankly I had had enough of it by the
time I left the service. See Page 132, Lt Temple Richard's evidence to
the Inquiry. . Later in the Cold War, I am advised the more modern boats snorted from
the UK to wherever they were going without ever surfacing. I would
imagine this would bring its own unique stresses. Here are my comments about some of the 'domestic' items in this chapter,
while trivial in regard to the disaster they are included in the book
and correction based on experience is called for, giving I hope, clearer
picture of the 'domestic' life aboard a submarine to non-submariner
readers. When at sea, I don't recall ever eating other than at the mess table
either in the Seaman's mess or later the Chief's and PO's mess. Neither did we queue for meals - it was the standard RN mess system with
a single galley. Duty mess men from the seaman and stokers messes
collected the food in trays to be served in the messes, with a permanent
mess man recruited from the ranks of the stokers and seamen to the ERAs
and Chief & POs respectively. The wardroom had a qualified steward. Tea
was made by the messes themselves using the readily available water
heater with a valued tea and sugar allocation stored in an aluminium
box, one for each mess. I know little of the ERA's mess man, but as I
recall the Chief and POs mess man was also the Coxswain's assistant with
stores and the like - usually an AB known as the 'Tanky' - he kept no
watches. I never had a ditty box or recall ever seeing one in the Navy. In the
accommodation space there was nowhere so many could be stowed. On the
face it they would be a menace, loose hanging around. I had one of the
seat lockers available for kit etc. We all brought along a best No1
uniform for going ashore. But I am happy to be corrected about ditty
boxes -hardly a matter of great importance. The description of the rum issue is incorrect - Grog (rum and water) was
issued to each individual rating leading hand and neat rum to Chiefs and
POs. One could be classified as G for Grog, T for temperance in which
case one received sixpence a day in lieu of and UA (under 20) and not
entitled. The Coxswain held the rum in his store and officers did not get
rum issued. They purchased duty free liquor like gin. On the whole the
tot didn't seem to create any problems and was something to look forward
to each day on long trips, though I was temperance simply to get the
sixpence, pay was not that high and accumulated sixpences helped while
on leave. In regard to adequate manning I think the problem for the author and
others is that they fail to fully appreciate that other than at diving
stations, the submarine operated on a three watch system with for
instance, only six people in the engine room/motor room compartment. The watch ERA and one leading stoker on the engine control platform, two
stokers near the mid engine exhaust valves, plus the Electrician's Mate
in the Motor Room, with one stoker in the after auxiliary machine space
looking after the shaft glands and steering gear normal and emergency.
There might an extra person permanently aboard for training. This was the set-up for surface, submerged on battery or snorting. The
EO, CERA and the PO Electrician would have kept a supervisory eye on
things, but not 24 hours a day. All pretty relaxed as far as I was concerned. Of course snorting in rough weather could be busy if we kept pulling a
vacuum that forced the OOW or the ERA on watch to stop the engines. I
always got the impression holding the trim in the control room was pretty tiring
work requiring good plane operators and an experienced OOW. In addition
to controlling the boat, a periscope watch was kept. On occasions in
daylight I saw both periscopes in use watching for aircraft with the OOW
focused on the trim. A radar watch was also kept though I know nothing
of the detail Sometimes the boat would go to diving stations for starting to snort,
but not often in my experience. We occasionally dived and surfaced on
the watch if the weather was reasonable. More on snorting later re' the
exercise. The most informative items in this chapter involve a brief description
of the early service of the AFFRAY. There is a reference to the battery
(3rd September 1946) apparently defective only a few months after being
fitted. In over six years in 'A' and 'T' boats I never experienced a
completely failed cell let alone a whole battery. Why did this vital
item have to be replaced and which battery - No1 or No 2? Was it
relevant to the later battery tank problems? We are not told in the
book. Readers will find the subject of the battery and battery tanks raised
several times with no attempt to explain the full technical
ramifications. More commentary on this important item later. I had thought the 'A' boats including AFFRAY were mainly based in Hong
Kong with the ADAMANT in 1946 as part of Britain's post war naval
policy, but apparently not? However this is of no importance in
investigating the loss of the AFFRAY, except perhaps, I have always
understood snort kits sent out from the UK were fitted to some 'A' class
in Hong Kong dockyard that at the time enjoyed a good reputation. The author finishes with a paragraph that starts - "Snort masts were
regarded as a wonderful invention, but in 1951 they had some serious
flaws that needed to be ironed out".
When discussing flaws in the snort masts its as well to recall the RN
submarine fleet had snorted tens of thousands of miles prior to the loss
of the AFFRAY, including the Tropical cruise of the 1947 ALLIANCE and in
1948 the AMBUSH to the Arctic. Both cruises for the specific purpose
evaluating snorting in various arduous conditions. Reported on in full
in the archives and partially in the ALLIANCE book. The AMPHION snort
system in 1953 following a full refit didn't seem any different to the
ARTEMIS in 1950. Or were the Admiralty not telling us something and
today, neither is the author! He goes on. The need to thoroughly train
crews about the correct usage of snort was paramount in the submarine
service.
And another gem - Used incorrectly by a busy or inexperienced crew in
the engine room could quickly send a submarine to the bottom of the sea
". Well that hasn't happened in the period from 1946 to the date when the
last of the UPHOLDER class were mothballed, and diesel boats were no
more in the RN. Neither did it happen in the large USN snorkel fleet, with a basically
similar but actually a little more complicated kit than the RN set-up. This is a testament to the care and attention of the many people
involved over the decades in an operation that requires a continuing
state of alertness while on watch.
Actually the Arctic cruise did reveal that the snort head valve could
freeze open and the boat would need to go deeper to melt the ice.
Snorting became impractical in these circumstances. But note the need to
be alert and keep a hand near the hull induction valve. Very soon an
electrically heated snort head valve assembly was progressively fitted to
all 'A' class though not to the AFFRAY nor AMPHION in the 1953 refit. Clearly the author is setting the stage for what is to come in later
chapters, but offers no evidence, anecdotal or otherwise.
It is worth mentioning at this point that the AFFRAY on her last trip
carried a full complement of engine room and motor room staff,
sufficient to run the normal three watches. The Electrician's Mate put
ashore, Page 36 was additional to the usual submarine basic complement
of the Electrician (A Petty Officer), a Leading Electrician's Mate and
two Electrician's Mates Ist Class.
DAD I THINK THIS BOAT IS JUST ABOUT FINISHED
This chapter opens with "the AFFRAY having entered the HM Dockyard,
Portsmouth for a major refit on 8 May 1950". But in
Chapter 2 we are
told - "June 1950 found her in the Norwegian ports of Galesund
(Alesund), Bergen and, Haugusend before returning to Manchester on 7th
July". All 'show the flag' visits with the ARTEMIS on which I was
serving at the time. From these dates it would appear her dockyard stay
would be too short for a major stripping of the submarines machinery for
refurbishment as detailed in my commentary later in this chapter in
regard to AMPHION. At the close of this chapter the author states that
AFFRAY lost her 4 inch gun and 20 mm anti-aircraft weapon and received
her own snort tube January 1950 - another period in dockyard? This date may well be correct but no later than 1948/48 would be a better fit, the usually reported progress dates for the fitting of snorts to all the A class, some even being fitted as they were being completed in the yards. These were after all the 'front line' class in the Royal Navy's
Submarine Fleet.
The author goes on to tells us that, "Her crew was ready for Christmas
leave, although some would return early to be present when the submarine
was again booked into HM Dockyard, Portsmouth for a full engine refit
starting I January 1951." Here we lack definition of what the author
means by a full engine refit, the complete removal and refurbishment of
all the heavy cylinders/pistons or simply light maintenance work on such
things as the fuel pumps, Fuel spray valves etc? Re' the crew returning early January 1st. The normal procedure was that
half the crew went before Christmas returning before New Year's Eve to
allow the other half to go in time to start their ten days leave in time
to be home for New Year's Eve, the first half having enjoyed Christmas
Eve and Day with their families. According to an article 'Disaster
Beneath the Waves', In January 1951
Affray was transferred to a Reserve Group 'G' at Portsmouth but on 17th
March she was brought out of Reserve and Lt John Blackburn DSC was
appointed CO with the task of bringing Affray and the new ship's company
up to operational status. The "task" was hardly onerous, AFFRAY was only out of fleet service for
about 60 days and from the book, Page 33, still had senior crew members
attached including the First Lieutenant Sherwood (12 months on AFFRAY)
and the Engineer Officer Alston (22 months on AFFRAY) and considered
very capable men by their former captain, Lieutenant Temple-Richard.
But I must say I have difficulty with this article as whole as it makes
serious statements with no sources quoted. Who to believe?
I suspect the necessary Reserve Group management policies of the times have much to do with what have been unfairly depicted then and now, as cavalier actions by the submarine officers of the time who had all served through WWII. I have added an appendix RESERVE GROUPS, with the intention showing submarines in this groups were often maintained in full operational condition manned by a single experienced crew and only the status changed when a submarine was brought back into the fleet with its own crew. Note Board of Inquiry statement Page 114. More on refits later in this chapter.
In this chapter Engine Room Artificer Second Class, David Bennington
comes into the book, his numerous letters to his father played a
critical role in the aftermath of the loss. His statements and concerns that were eventually published in the press
and were given serious consideration by the Board of Inquiry but largely
refuted by the previous captain of the AFFRAY and a fellow ERA during
their giving of evidence. Frankly on reading the letter content published in the book, there
didn't seem to anything that would justify sending letters that must
have upset his father. We on ARTEMIS were in company with AFFRAY in 1950
on the same 'show the flag' trips mentioned in the book and things
seemed OK when alongside each other, and no word of serious difficulties
came to our notice and Jack was a great gossip
However it is a case of speaking ill of the dead and the boat was lost
in mysterious circumstances tending to confirm Bennington's worst first
fears, but I am afraid taking all that is in the book and my own
experiences in a similar 'A' class, I think he was rather exaggerating
the situation aboard AFFRAY prior to her refit during the 1950 period.
Engine problems on submarines were not uncommon with memories of making
my way to and from the motor room edging past ERA's and stokers with a
complete cylinder dismantled. Aboard the AMPHION the starboard engine
blew up in a spectacular manner while snorting in 1953 filling the
engine room full of thick black smoke forcing us to surface and into an
early start for the intended refit at Portsmouth. I was on watch in the
motor room fairly close to the action when this happened and very
grateful to the keen ear of the CERA who started shutting down before
the failure, minimizing the damage else we all may have been sprayed
with engine bits and pieces. Readers will in the end, have to make their own evaluation of David
Bennington's letters in the context of the book and the mores of the
time. Dave Lowe as a former Dockyard apprentice in 1950 presents a dockyard
picture of ill-disciplined crews of RN submarine during time in the
dockyard. In my experience there were two dockyard scenarios: The first scenario is one I experienced during the long refit of AMPHION
in 1953. Accommodation and offices were in a dedicated building fairly
close to the dock. The spares boxes for inspection were in a caged
lock-up in larger building near the dock. The submarine was completely
stripped and all machinery removed for refurbishment in the various
specialist Dockyard workshops, a well planned operation. At the peak
only the propulsion motors were left as they only needed an inspection
and clean. There was little if any friction between dockyard staff and the skeleton
crew, there was little reason as the RN people took no part in the
actual refit work, and it was much like the building of a new submarine.
My duties as an Leading Electrician's Mate, the senior electrical rating
left with the boat along with one EM 1st class, was confined to
stripping, checking and repacking the numerous electrical spares boxes.
Obviously one was expected to keep an eye open and report concerns to
the refit Lieutenant in charge. Also it was a time of learning about the
boat as she was dismantled and reassembled, but on the whole a cushy
number apart from evening duty watch when you had to clamber all over
the stripped boat to make sure there were no fires etc. I was living
ashore with my wife when not on duty. The second dockyard scenario involved a relatively short docking for repairs or
inspections with a full crew - this was not a common situation in my own
experience but we did once spend two weeks in dock at Devonport for
general hull maintenance. I managed to frequently escape and stay at the
most excellent NAAFI hostel with my wife and our baby, so I really can't
comment if there were any "incidents" on that occasion, but the Jimmy
and the senior chiefs didn't put up with too much bad behaviour in those
days. In fact people in submarines at that time, were on the whole, well
behaved and air of casual but firm discipline prevailed. For what it is worth on ARTEMIS in 1950 we went into the floating dock
at Portland to paint the hull, no dockyard labour was involved. Not
sure who operated the dock. Regarding David Lowe's experience lowering the snort mast. Lowering the
snort mast in harbour at any time without a safety clearance was a
remarkably reckless thing to do as people were often working on the
after casing where mooring ropes and springs were stowed. On Page 24 the author states that the AFFRAY went into the dockyard for
an engine refit starting 1 January 1951and it is clear to me from the
detail in the book that this second dockyard scenario is the one that
was experienced by AFFRAY in 1951. This view is confirmed in particular
by the book on Page 23 stating that ERA Bennington was still at work in
the engine room and concerned about his health as he wrote to his father
5th February 1951. It is also clear that there was a duty watch PO in
the form of Electrical Artificer Duncombe who joined the AFFRAY 6th
April. LEM Wood was carrying out his duties aboard and discusses the
oily water in the battery sump with Leading Seaman Goddard while in the
mess with four other duty ratings. Duncombe, a skilled electrical tradesman states in the book at this time
"We had one or two teething problems
at first, but the main one was the No 1 Battery tank." Not exactly a
submarine in poor condition! Thus there is no indication that AFFRAY actually went out of commission
and that the crew had completely moved out of the boat to clear the way
for the Dockyard to take over as had been the case with the AMPHION. As
mentioned earlier, a source other than the book states she was in
Reserve Group status at this time and the off-duty crew could well have
been living in the submarine crew accommodation at DOLPHIN. I suggest it had been expected that she would be out well before she
actually did with plenty of time to run up prior to the planned April
Exercise, but she lingered until there was no time for a comfortable
running up period before the date of the exercise loomed. However the
need for extensive sea trials and running up periods were simply not
required as apparently there were no major repairs to equipment
requiring extensive diving trials. The AFFRAY had not gone through a
major refit as I have described for AMPHION that recommissioned with a
new crew, especially senior officers and NCOs.
Why she lingered in the Dockyard is not clear, but it was not due to extensive work being carried and running over time, in fact the author states the log books confirm that repair and maintenance work was indeed taking far too long. Log book entries for most of March of 1951 show practically no repairs were completed although there were numerous entries stating cleaning had taken place. Is this the authors interpretation of the logs or are concerns expressed by the responsible officers of the AFFRAY.
We are told of
a series of meetings ashore with absolutely no information about who
attended and what discussed and decisions made. We are told the crew were worked long hours to repair the faulty engine
and plus scores of other tasks. One would have taken from this that the
dockyard staff had done nothing of substance from January to March. Did
the Submarine's First Lieutenant and the Engineering Officer sit mute
while nothing happened? Well the First Lieutenant did express his concerns to his wife, that the
ship was not seaworthy. But not apparently to the new Captain who seems
unconcerned from the time he joined in March. David Lowe suggests a piecemeal approach to repairs where work was
requested from the Dockyard and later booked to the ship. Makes sense to
me, how else is the cost of ship repair to be accounted for? Calling on
his own experiences, apparently as an apprentice, he suggests the Navy
preferred a half-finished job or tried to do it themselves. He was it
seems not involved with AFFRAY and therefore describing the general RN Dockyard scene that if we are to take his remarks at face value the
Navy was run by a bunch of lazy, ineffectual incompetents. Well certainly we did things for ourselves or got the well-equipped
submarine depot ship to assist where special machinery was required,
that's what it was they were there for! But we weren't incompetent
idiots and knew when a task required skills or facilities beyond our
own. I tramped round Bristol once until I found a ship supplier who
could supply a few metres of heavy lead covered cable to replace a
damaged length on the main ballast pump, getting it from DOLPHIN was not
practical, no couriers in those days. Our ERAs were excellent and could tackle any mechanical repair that it
was practical to make on a submarine at sea. Somehow Affray's lot are
made out to be a bunch of winging buffoons who happily allowed their
boat to fall into disrepair or allow the dockyard to not properly carry
out docketed repairs. I need a lot more proof than has been
presented in the book to accept crew incompetence and unless all the
documents are available we must assume the AFFRAY was in good order in
the eyes of her Engineer Officer and Captain and in my experience no CERA would keep his mouth shut if things weren't right. All the CERA in
my experience were very impressive men who any captain would listen to
if concerns were expressed. However I must concede the First Lieutenants
comments to his wife are disturbing and not what I would have expected
when I was in submarines. Not so much for accuracy but in that he said
them at all. On the face of it, he was not a man worn out as might be
the case of wartime patrols but someone who had it relatively easy for
months. Not reliable for a long patrol is one thing but unseaworthy is
quite another.
In the book we are left with no idea why the AFFRAY spent so much time
in the Dockyard (but not necessarily Dockyard hands) and then apparently
departed with little remedial work completed and as the First Lieutenant
told his wife - unseaworthy. Apart from the oil/water in the No1 battery
sump, we are given no idea what was supposed to be wrong with this submarine
apart from a broad-brush comment about the engines with no detail
whatsoever. It could a dodgy fuel pump or a main bearing problem, no
idea! Sabotage was an issue, but not overly so in that AMPHION's large ballast
pump having been removed and refurbished was left overnight on the
casing waiting to be lowered into the engine room, next morning it was
found to have been pushed into the bottom the dry dock. Up and till then
we didn't have a full time sentry, after all we were supposed to be in
a secure Naval Dockyard. Later as the full crew settled in the newly
refitted boat alongside DOLPHIN the main hull air induction valve had
to be stripped by our engine room crew for some minor reason and
unexpected evidence was found of what was thought to be sabotage, though
I know little about it as it was, all hush-hush with a couple of men in
dark suits peering up the valve hole with the EO and CERA, well that's
as much as I recall standing at a distance in the motor room except the
mess deck chat was that a linen bag of bolts had been placed on the
induction pipe spider and was intended to rot allowing the bolts to fall
into the valve faces As might be expected, I was not taken into the
confidence of those involved so my observations were from a distance as
it were but it was a very long time ago and I can't even prove its not
all in my imagination, but I don't think so. These were strange times
with many people still strong Soviet supporters dismayed at the Cold War
but that's another story. Looking at the refit from my level, it all seemed to go OK. We
commissioned and went into fleet service with no major failures that I
can recall. I was promoted to be the boats PO Electrician while still
in the Dockyard, it was simply my time on the General Service RN
promotion list. Normally a PO Electrician would have been drafted in and
I would have continued as the LEM. Perhaps, and I do not really know, crew shortages may well have forced
the Submarine Drafting Office to take people on submarines temporarily
out of action but not out of commission, away to fill gaps on active
submarines. Something that did not seem happen later as the total
complement grew to meet the need. We have others in this chapter making statements about the condition of
AFFRAY in 1950 that are largely refuted by witnesses at the Inquiry. One is of particular interest, a leaking hydraulic ram in the engine
that the Leading Stoker Mechanic Day experienced and thought was the
cause of the snort induction valve operating slowly. He may well have
been right, but viewed from a simple technical perspective; this is an
unlikely scenario with the telemotor (hydraulic) pressure in the order
of 1200 to 1500 lbs per square inch. However there may be more to his
story than is reported in the book. Of most significance is that he
confirms the main induction valve was hydraulically operated in 1950 and
hence valves were not a remedial addition after the disaster as stated
later Page 178.
Leading Stoker Day's job in the engine room is stated to be raising and
lowering the raise, lower, open and close the snort mast's induction
tube. This can't be correct, the snort mast or induction tube was raised and
lowered from the control room. The hull induction valve was opened and
shut in the engine room. The basics of the career of the 1951 captain, Blackburn are detailed, a
decorated WWII skipper with considerable experience in command and as a
First Lieutenant. Note I am advised by John Eade, submarine historian
and researcher of the times, that Blackburn is listed as a Lieutenant
dated 01/07/1943, [promotion to Lieutenant Commander needed 8 years as a
Lt]. The author refers to Blackburn throughout the book using both
ranks. At that time commanders of 'A' class submarines were Lieutenants
or Lieutenant Commanders. Captain Coote had this to say in his book 'SUBMARINER', that I must say
I thought it was rather unkind and I found most unsatisfactory his not
giving the name of the Skipper and his boat, who Coote says refused this
exercise, while making a disparaging comment about the deceased
Blackburn. Clearly this unnamed officer should have been a principle
witness giving evidence to the Board of Inquiry. Why did he not come
forward as a matter of duty? A group photograph of Blackburn as a young Sub Lieutenant on the
submarine HMS SAFARI commanded by the famous Commander Ben Bryant. This
impressive group don't look as though they would tolerate someone who
wasn't up to scratch fighting a war! See
Extract from the book SUBMARINER by CAPTAIN COOTE RN (Deceased)
Chapter 15, PERISHER AND THE PERISHER AND FIRST COMMAND
"There were only two others on my Submarine Commanding Officers
Qualifying Course to give the Perisher its proper title. John
Blackburn, who had great potential, was to lose his life in his second
command, HMS AFFRAY, which down with her not only her ships' company
but an entire training-class of submarine engineer officers, many sons
of serving officers. She had just come out of an extended time in
dockyard hands when she was abruptly ordered to sea, straight into the
potentially dangerous procedure of snorting by night in a main shipping
lane. It was not in John's nature to question his orders. No matter what
misgivings he may have felt. Another Commanding Officer in a boat in a
similar state of readiness flatly refused to sail on the exercise which
led to the untimely end of the AFFRAY and her fine company.
Significantly no disciplinary action was taken against him, and he was
promoted to Commander. Affray lies in 250 feet of water next to the Hurd
Deep, fifteen miles north-west of Alderney Harbour."
In this chapter is introduced an issue that in my view is the most
significant in regards to the submarines fitness for service, the oil
and water mix found in the number No1 battery sump by the EA Duncombe
while duty PO. Significant in that we have so little else of substance
that might sensibly give a clue as to the cause of the disaster. Indeed
it is the only specifically detailed item that indicates something not
right. It should be explained that in commission, in harbour there was a duty
watch, with a duty officer and duty PO. An Electricians Mate was always
included for charging or even operating the motors while in the trot
(group of submarines alongside) if the boat was required to be moved to
say allow another submarine to go to sea. This is important in than
later in the book the duty LEM also found water in the No 1 battery sump
Page 127. It is not clear if they are really the same event misreported. The roster of Chiefs and PO who carried out the duties of PO of the
watch included the EA, PO Stoker, and other Chiefs and POs with specific
exceptions. At sea the same roster performed the duties of PO of the
watch in the Control Room, surfaced or submerged. An important duty. In the book the problems with the No 1 battery are dealt with in a most
unsatisfactory manner with sources largely coming from unqualified
ratings not directly involved in the matter. If oil/water was leaking into the sealed tank then this was in my view,
a most serious matter with the cause having to be urgently determined
and the problem remedied to the satisfaction of the highest level of
structural engineering authority, both civil and naval. Only in
chapter
26 page 177, does Commander Tall RN, being interviewed by the author,
tersely state "the water/oil issue was sorted out", how did he know? I
don't think he was even in the Navy at that time, let alone involved
with AFFRAY. Had he seen archived documents not published in the book? He was
Director of the RN Submarine Museum. The No1 Battery Tank, from text in the SUBMARINE ALLIANCE by Lambert
and Hill that confirms my experiences of many years ago.
"The No 1 battery was in No 1 battery tank beneath the central part of
the accommodation space, a clearance of about 10inch being left between
the top of the cells and the deck of the accommodation space. Access to
the tank was gained through rubber seated screw down battery boards. The
tank was lined with Rosbonite to prevent corrosion of the ship's
structure by acid. The 112 cells (each about 530 kg) stood on waxed teak
gratings to which were secured rubber pads to prevent contact between
the cells and the ships structure. The tank floor sloped aft to a sump
which could be sighted in the Engineers store."
The battery boards that covered the cells and formed part of the
accommodation space deck and were of a fabricated steel design, large,
strong and heavy to lift as I well remember. Through them on a
periodical basis the specific gravity of each cell could be measured and
then topped up with distilled water. Removing a specific cell could
require lifting out several others and moving other cells around to
bring the faulty cell into a clear opening, though this never happened
in my experience. Provisions were made to charge individual cells to
bring them up to the overall average state of the battery. In a major
refit the batteries were removed and replaced. Two circular plates about 12 inches in diameter in the passage way, held
down by three screws, provided access at the change of every watch to a
'pilot' cell to give an idea of the battery specific gravity, only one
was in regular use. It was of course possible that these frequently used
cover plates were the source of the ingress of fuel/water but there
would surely have been signs on the top of the cell and most certainly
this would be the first culprit to spring to mind for examination. It is worth considering that the RN had by this time, about 50 years
experience of stowing cells on submarines and the benefit of reports of
any shock problems due to depth charging in two wars. As I recall the
cells were also wedged individually to keep them in place. The author's
reference to ' held in place by asbestos string is a puzzle. As the construction of the battery tank was rectangular in a circular
pressure hull, significant spaces were left at the sides and beneath.
The side spaces formed tanks for fresh water and battery distilled water
for topping up cells. The space beneath was divided athwart ship to form
No 3 (1795 gallons) and No 4 (1948 gallons) internal fuel tanks. The
after bulkhead of the battery tank formed part of an accessible
Engineers Store where the sight sump was located. Forward, the bulkhead
formed part of the No1 (4465 gallons) and No 2 (4465 gallons) Internal
fuel tanks divided by a longitudinal bulkhead. Thus the bulk of the battery tank itself was adjacent to fuel and water
- logically the source of any fuel and water appearing in the battery
tank through cracked or otherwise faulty welding. We have no information as how seriously the welded seams of the battery
tank were examined and tested. More importantly were any leaks found and
repaired, only second hand lower deck gossip from people with a limited
knowledge of the submarines internal structures. Some two years later the Chief Stoker of the AMPHION told me that he
never used internal tanks when snorting due the possibility of excessive
sea pressure occurring because the fuel tanks were all pressurised by
controlled exposure to the sea to compensate in the tank for used fuel
with sea water and deliver the fuel to the engine room where any water
was separated from the fuel by the De Laval centrifugal separators. He
felt the boat only had to lose trim and the sea pressure would become
excessive beyond the strength of the fuel tanks with the cells being
contaminated with oily seawater if the tanks was more water than fuel,
and the consequent risk of chlorine gas that would be picked up by the
battery ventilation and out into the boat. The reality is we neither
knew how much chlorine gas or its toxicity. But it was a theory that
fits Commander Tall's three in a row failure scenario, Page 176. All this was a long time ago and was interesting but not vital knowledge
for me as the boat's Electrician, but I think I have it clear what he
said about one possible cause of the loss of the AFFRAY. In recent years
I have come across U-Boat Command orders banning the use of internal
fuel tanks when snorkelling due to risk of over pressurising the tanks.
The chapter continues with the instructions to Blackburn to be ready for
sea after a short trial. My understanding from the time I was in submarines was that it was the
First Lieutenant's duty to report to the Captain prior to sailing that
the ship was ready for sea in all respects and apparently Foster did not
strongly express his serious concerns to his Captain as he had done to
wife. Or did he express them and Blackburn was quite happy to have a
second in command with such grave misgivings that ignored, suggested the
Captain was reckless? It was always my privilege to serve with First Lieutenants who were fine
inspiring officers and managed the ship with firmness and confidence.
From the ranks of these men came the submarine commanders of the
future. Lt W. Kirkwood the Instructor on AFFRAY, our First Lieutenant on
ARTEMIS was one such officer. The chapter concludes with the information that the submarine was
officially declared fit for sea and that a reduced crew took her across
to DOLPHIN. This seems rather outside what I believe was the usual custom of the
captain and the complete crew joining the boat in the final testing and
acceptance days before completion in the Dockyard, however if all the
key officers and CPO/POs were present then this would be quite
satisfactory. Apparently the First Lieutenant and the Engineering
Officer from 1950 stayed with boat through the refit, both experienced
officers in submarines and this boat in particular. See
Chapter 5. There is no doubt my mind that I knew she did not
have a full crew when
alongside at DOLPHIN. I was in Spare Crew having left ARTEMIS at DOLPHIN
14th April 1951 until drafted to join TRUNCHEON at Rothesay 19th April
1951. I had heard she was going on ship visit to my home town,
Manchester and thought about trying for a place on her but the drafting
office had me down for, as I say, the TRUNCHEON. The book states that she did her first sea trial post re-fit, with half
a crew on 11th April 1951. The half crew is not as big an issue as has
been made out. As I commented earlier a submarine normally operates with
a third of the crew on watch and this was just a short day trip. A lot
depends on the people, for instance if the EO and the CERA were not
present, that would quite surprising but if the half crew had the right
mix there should have been no problem. And it cannot be repeated too
often, the skipper Blackburn was an experienced submarine commander and
perfectly capable of assessing his crew needs for any given situation,
else he should not have been in a command position. And what was there
to be gained career-wise in taking risks in this situation? And as the
book makes clear all that he did was approved by Captain (S/M) at
DOLPHIN and he had a staff who could express concern if they felt
strongly enough about the plans for AFFRAY Not the least Commander (S/M)
Stanley. The second in command of the Flotilla, who in the book is only asked
technical questions and expressed surprise to the Inquiry about leaving
the EA behind but apparently didn't know prior to sailing or chose not
to express any concerns to Blackburn or Captain (S/M).
EXERCISE TRAINING SPRING
The author covers the first dive out of refit and the preparations for
the fateful exercise. There were two crewing scenarios. The first was
the crew assembled for the first test dive that according to the author
was much reduced in numbers and had to have Reserve Group crew members
added to bring the numbers up to 40 officers and men (crew members
apparently taking the nominal Easter Leave Period). As previously stated
this crew must have been seen as adequate by the experienced Skipper
Blackburn for the test dive and the fact is the trials were carried out
to his satisfaction without any problems, indeed the always concerned
ERA Bennington reported to his father "We have done our trials and
everything went off pretty well and consequently everyone is pretty
pleased". Apparently the nature of the crew assembly for the trials did
not disturb the experienced ERA Bennington who did not hesitate to tell
his father about any concerns. More on Reserve Groups later and in the Appendix The statement that Leading Seaman Goddard had wired up the hatch
containing the yellow indicator buoy should be clarified as this
statement seems to imply the hatch was fixed and perhaps could not be
released from inside a submerged, but damaged boat as intended. All boats coming out of major refit have a large portion of the crew who
have only recently been drafted to join the much smaller number of crew
member that stayed with the boat during refit. Certainly the majority of
Officers, senior Chiefs and POs would in my experience join the boat as
the refit was nearing completion. However this experience was two years after the loss of AFFRAY but
regardless the first dive(s) after refit is always going to be with a
crew only recently assembled. More on this later. The second crew scenario and the most critical were those assembled to
take the AFFRAY on the fateful exercise. Putting aside the issue of the
officer trainees, the exercise would have been a comfortable trip for
the captain to try out a boat fresh out of period inactive in dockyard
and observe the abilities of the crew and who were all new to him but
not on the whole to the First Lieutenant and Engineer Officer. An
exercise that by the standards of the time was not onerous and intended
to be only from Monday evening to the following Monday morning with an
overnight break in Falmouth on the Thursday and at some point land the
marines aboard in on some remote English beach. However I am certainly no expert in the operational policies of the day
but at the time one took some interest in what was going on, particularly
if it effected the day to day activities of the boat and it does strike
me as odd that the AFFRAY was going to snort all night, well according
to those who did not go to sea but heard Blackburn's address to the
crew. But Captain S/Ms instructions Page 28 leave the method of night
passage to Blackburn's judgement so it was his choice. My hazy
recollections are that on the big realistic NATO exercises lasting
several weeks, we snorted during the day using the periscope, hoping to
spot approaching aircraft that had picked up our snort head on radar or
visually. At night I understood we were a sitting radar duck and dived
out of the way but I realise looking back those were the days when new
tactics were being worked out and tried and Captain S/M didn't discuss
them with me. The aims of the AFFRAY on this trip were surely shaped by the artificial
need to expose the numerous trainees to all the basic aspects in small
groups and not to conduct a 24/7 war operation where everybody is out to
get you. I am inclined to agree with Captain Coots (quote attached
above) that the busy English Channel was no place for a snorting
submarine at night, but perhaps it wasn't as busy in 1951? All night
periscope look out would have been very demanding. Collision was one of
the very real risks in the peace time submarines, a risk then recently
driven home by the 1950 loss of the TRUCULENT. I never ever failed to
realise the lookouts had our lives in their hands though I didn't lose
any sleep about it. Its like all the other people one has to depend on
in life who you don't even know. It is notable that many if not all submarines were later fit with the
officially named sturdy TRUCULENT navigation lights at the extreme bow
and stern. However as we will later see there was no evidence of a collision
involving the AFFRAY. The contentious issue was the taking aboard for the exercise of two
classes of officer trainees, with certain crew members left ashore. More
on this later. The author gives what appears to be a copy of Blackburn's orders from
Captain (SM) copied and I think retyped from the original orders, the
source is not referenced. However the detail makes it clear the Captain was not under any pressure
to take any risks and largely had a free hand. The author and others seem to find the carrying and landing of a small
party of Marines (Special Boat Squadron people one supposes) most
unusual and even sinister. I doubt it; we took a similar party and launched their foldboats to land
on the beach in the Scilly Isles. Next day we picked them up and we all
enjoyed the Sunday newspapers they brought back with them. Just an
exercise unless one wants to indulge in conspiracy theories. Of more serious concern is the forward torpedo hatch that had to be
opened to get the foldboats on the casing ready for the water. This
hatch is quite low in the water as can seen on any drawings and is not
usually opened at sea, in fact the hatch is clipped and heavy billets
of steel put in place to strengthen the gap in the circular hull caused
by the angled hatch - see LS Goddard's evidence Page 128. However I'm sure
all precautions re' sea condition would be taken as there would not
appear to be any urgency also one assumes it was to some degree a
self-adjusting situation if the sea conditions were OK for the small
foldboats then it was likely safe to open the hatch. We may have even changed the trim to bring the hatch higher, I don't
recall, if I ever knew. See a brief reference to the risk Chap 10 Page 82, no further indication
is given as to how much weight was given to this risk. The author reports Marine Sergeant Andrews expressing concerns that the
boat leaked like a sieve, how on earth did he know that? ERA
Bennington, not an optimist by any means, had just expressed
satisfaction with the state of the boat following the only dive prior to
the exercise. Bennington sends more depressing reports to his poor father.
Footnote to Chapter 4 commentary.
- Extract from the appendix RESERVE GROUPS. Note the long period between
working up the new submarine and the delayed working up patrol.
- 23rd November 1944 Sidon was completed and commenced trials followed by
the start of working up training at the Holy Loch
- 20th January 1945 Damaged in a submerged collision with HMS/m Turpin.
Her stem cutter was turned to starboard by a length of 4 feet.
- 8th-23rd September 1945 Sidon departed Lerwick to commence her working
up patrol. This took place on the west coast of Norway on a known U-boat
track.
CLOAK AND DAGGER STUFF
The author makes a number of unsubstantiated statements about the
abilities of the crew and apparently knows what they were thinking
about. If I am to believe all their concerns, they were very different
to the men I served with and this I very much doubt. Jack would
grumble about anything, its when he went quiet that you had to get
concerned.
We are also told how experienced were the Affray's First Lieutenant and
Engineer Officer, both having been attached to AFFRAY for 12 months or
more. They stayed with the boat during the refit. Indeed the EO had apparently
been with her for 21 months, quite a long time in the submarine service. This experienced and highly trained officer must have been very familiar
with any problems his boat may have had and was in a position to clearly
state any concerns direct to the captain. Lt Kirkwood, the training officer leading the group of trainee seaman or
executive officers is stated to be an 'outstanding officer' and had
spent the last year as the Principal Training Officer of 'A' class
submarines. Well he was certainly a competent officer, but he had
actually been the First Lieutenant of the ARTEMIS appointed 15/12/1949
and left 10-11-1950 to be the First Lieutenant of DOLPHIN Spare Crew. I
served on ARTEMIS from 21 February 1950 to 19th April 1951.
Kirkwood was
a very nice man and he is on our crew photograph taken at
Manchester summer 1950. AFFRAY was there as well. I left DOLPHIN Spare
Crew 19th APRIL 1951 go to TRUNCHEON at Rothesay, Scotland. 'T' boats
continued snorting. The image on the right is fom an original large glossy of mine showing Lt
Kirkwood and Signalman Jeffs on ARTEMIS bridge summer of 1950, note the
length of the snort mast. It was secured by a yoke about 1 metre below
the top of the bridge where the men are standing and broke of just above
this point.
The author places great importance on the modern concept of team work
etc, but this is a misunderstanding of the way things were in 1951. We
were a crew, but very much separated by our fields of expertise. The
stokers lived in a world of their own, as did the telegraphists; the
electrical people lived in the seaman's mess and answered to the 1st Lt
but performed their watch keeping duties in the motor room in the after
part of the engine room. It was the stokers who shared their Kai with
you in the middle of the night on watch, not the seaman watch keepers in
the control room who quite reasonably simply forgot about you way back there. When
snorting the various people on watch in the engine room formed a team,
indeed the ERA and the Electricians Mate despite a significant
difference in rating, had to be always in sync' with their hand signals.
And in turn the 'on watch' stokers with the ERA assisted by the leading
stoker. (Two engines) formed a team to start and shut down the engines.
Yet the Electrician's Mate was effectively alone on watch when submerged on battery, with the ERA and
stokers with little to do, spinning yarns at the other end of the engine
room.
The art of ASDIC listening was limited to a few and at attack stations
a number of people from different specialisations formed the skippers
attack team in the Control Room. It is worth stating that in 1951 only
fairly recently had the TAS branch been formed and combined the torpedo
branch now without its electrical members who had moved into the new
Electrical Branch, with the ASDIC people. TAS ratings were seamen with a
non-substantive specialisation. Hence I would think it unlikely a TAS
seaman with torpedo expertise would able to easily take over from a TAS
seaman who had formerly been in the ASDIC branch as for instance a
Higher Submarine Detector. Other seamen were radar operators, while all
submarines carried a seaman with a gunnery specialisation, a Leading
Hand if a 4" gun was carried, Able Seaman if not. The Coxswain (CPO) and
Second Coxswain (PO) were again seamen with a specialisation and so it
goes. Without knowing the non-substantive ratings of all the seaman
ratings it is difficult to assess the expertise aspect of the crew mix,
aboard and left ashore. As already said lookouts and the OOW on the bridge always needed to keep
a keen eye on their surroundings for all our sakes, yet at any given
time we wouldn't know who was up there. The people in the fore ends and
after ends had to work as a disciplined team to safely load the bulky
and heavy torpedoes. Yet the cook worked alone as did the Officer's
Steward, but if the boat had a gun the cook could be found passing
shells up the gun hatch as part of that team. And so it went, a small community but we didn't get any team talks. What held them together was confidence that the Captain and the First
Lieutenant more or less knew what they was doing, they didn't have to be
a superman, just competent and in turn that we were all doing our
varied jobs competently. Nelson said it all in his famous signal before Trafalgar, sent to ships
manned by men and boys, even women, many not British, it gave clear
message to all and still applies today. Do your individual duty
whatever you may be on the ship. In my view that is what the Navy is all
about, a sense of ones individual duty at any time in any
circumstance. My point is that an individual who had significant submarine experience,
quickly fitted into any crew. My transition from a more modern A boat to
an older T class was virtually seamless. And I would say much the same
for the other RN submarines of the era, the smaller S class. However I would point out that some 'A' class had Vickers engines and
others Admiralty engines, of much the same basic design, but different
in detail. I would not claim to know how long it took for an ERA to
get used to one or the other. But in my experience training like
this if required was done, to use a modern term, on the 'buddy'
system, with the 'learner' going on watch with the 'teacher' for a
period. But this was usually more applicable to people fresh out of
submarine training. The engine room crew of the experimental
SCOTSMAN had no problem with the different 'A' class engines as they
temporarily took over different A class for a night to recharge
their submarine. See anecdote
Lt
(E) Phil Toms RN (ret). Chief ERA HM/SM Scotsman, 1954. The book reports the Coxswain marching the crew down to the boat, well
may be as it was but I was never marched anywhere, we just made our own
way from the shore quarters at DOLPHIN and the messes on floating depot
ships. The point was that different people had to report at different
times depending on the work that had to done before sailing. Coxswains I remember were really not marching sort of fellows. Still if
that is what people remember, who am I to debate the matter? The comments about sleeping arrangements of the rates below PO needs
clarifying, some slept in the actual stokers and seaman's messes on the
cushions of the seats as bunks. Above were fold up tubular steel frame
bunks with stretched canvas. Some slept in bunks just outside in the
passage, others slept in the fore ends on fold up bunks again made up of
tubular frames with stretched canvas. On a T class 18 bunks were
provided like this in the fore ends. They were hinged and swung up
during the day if required for working. I can't recall the number in the
fore ends of the A Class. I am 6 ft 4ins and always had enough length,
but you did have to be young! Some people slept in the after ends but at sea when a little rough, this
could be quite uncomfortable with the stern rising and falling with screws
racing and the A brackets rattling, but I guess you could get used it as
did the stokers on a 'T' class where all the stokers messed and slept in
isolation aft, there were no aft internal torpedo tubes. The Captain mustering the troops for a chat was something I never
experienced, my experience was that the Jimmy (1st Lt) managed the boat
in harbour through either the officers or senior NCOs. The Skipper was
usually coming down the gang plank with the casing party waiting to pull
it in to stow and the bridge crew in place and away we went. Same in
reverse when we returned, skipper straight off to report to Captain
S/M. You might see the skipper occasionally in harbour rounds once
month and if you were in trouble being drunk ashore. He would
occasionally come down for a drink in the ward room in the early
evening, but really I doubt I spoke two words to Lt Cmdr Crawford (DSC
and bar) in the year or more I served on ARTEMIS. However in dodgy
situations he would get on the Tannoy (public address) and tell us what
was going on. I have no doubt he knew who I was, as he depended on me
(and others) to run his motor room properly when he was asleep. It was
just an aloof, lonely sort of job. One always knew what
was going, somehow. I always peered at the chart as I passed through the
control room on my way to go on watch. Later when I was a PO, the skipper during
an attack might ask me for the state of the battery, but that was it.
The question raised about the Electrical Artificer being left ashore is
a rather a delicate one to respond to having been many years ago, a PO
Electrician in the then quite new Electrical Branch, but I must say nice
fellows though they were and no doubt highly skilled in my experience
were wasted on a submarine of that time. I served on four boats over a
six year period and never worked in any technical way with the EA. His
main duty was to stop and start the Sperry Gyro Compass before leaving
harbour and on return stop it after the EA gyro expert from the depot
ship came down the boat to check the compass. I was lectured on Gyro by
an EA expert at the electrical school and he told me he hated the smell
when he had to go down a boat just back in after a long trip. In theory
we were expected to be able to start and set the gyro on any kind of
ship ourselves, many small ships with Gyros did not have EAs. Fitting
and turning skills were a major part of an EAs training and not so in
the general Electrical Branch. But such skills if required could be performed by the ERAs on their
lathe in the engine room. However most of the auxiliary machine motors had spare
parts and replacement was within the defined skills of the members of
the Electrical Branch. In reality most of the electrical duties involved
motor room watch keeping and battery maintenance, with routine
inspection and cleaning of the numerous auxiliary motors in harbour.
Cleanliness of the major switchboards was essential, if for no other
reason than to get by Captain's Rounds without a black mark. To confirm my recollections of my duties I reviewed a copy of letter
written for me in late 1954 by my boss the First Lieutenant, Lt Jardine of the AMPHION as part of my preparation for my leaving the
service in 1955. It shows that I was responsible to him for my duties
that he describes quite clearly. The extensive duties of a Chief or PO
Electrician on any ship were clearly spelt out in detail in the official
document S430 D and the case of a submarine the EA just didn't come into
the picture when the power systems and electrical propulsion systems of
the boat were concerned. I still have a copy of this document that was
first issued when the Electrical Branch was formed about 1947. If any researcher wants to pursue the matter of the EA being left
ashore, I would be happy to supply copies of the documents I refer to
above. My recollections in submarines from 1949 to 1955 are that the EA was in
the roster of duty PO as mentioned earlier, both at sea and in harbour.
The Electrician was free from these general duties. While I am open to
be challenged on my recollections as to the status of the EA and the PO
Electrician on earlier boats when I was an Electrician's Mate and it was
not something of great importance to me, on the AMPHION as PO
Electrician I have no doubts that the EA was on the control room Roster and I was
free of roster duties and able to focus on the management of the ships
main electrical system, quite contrary to the evidence given by
Commander Stanley Page 124. A major failure of the Gyro would probably be beyond the facilities
available on a boat (not skills) and they were very reliable. If there
was a failure there was a magnetic compass system with actual compass on
the bridge in a relatively non-magnetic environment with periscope
system showing the card at the control helm. It was then and remains now a mystery to me why we carried these highly
skilled tradesmen with the automatic rank of CPO - a complete waste in
my experience despite what Commander Stanley has say Page 124. The "new"
surface navy needed people with their skills as new systems and weapons
appeared.
The sole purpose of my rather lengthy explanation of the duties of the
EA as I saw them at the time is to firmly justify Blackburns's decision
to leave the EA ashore for this short trip. It would not create any
manning problems except they would be one short on the control room
watch PO roster. To move on, AB Seaman Hickman's statement about the seaman complement
remaining the same can shown to be incorrect by comparing the crew lost
with a normal 'A' class crew. From the Affray's crew list it can be seen
there only three Able Seamen were aboard while the ships photograph of
ARTEMIS with names and ratings shows twelve ABs. As previously discussed we don't know the various specialisations of the
ABs left on board but we have to assume at least one Radar operator but
the highly skilled Radio Electrician, a PO and the submarines radar
maintainer, was aboard and maybe two ASDIC operators, though while
snorting ASDIC was not a lot of value. The leaving behind of the
Signalman would not be a big problem especially if a lot of submerged
snorting was intended and there was someone capable of reading an Aldis
lamp, flags were unlikely to be much of a problem. One of the full
complement of Telegraphists carried would obviously know morse code and may
also have been able to operate the Aldis Lamp if required. On examining the facts, Hickman's statement is ambiguous and he could
have been misunderstood. To complete the comment on this chapter, Skipper Blackburn may well
have shouted diving stations down the bridge voice pipe and the helmsman
below would then press the klaxon button adjacent to the wheel or
Blackburn could have waited until he had closed the upper hatch and
pressed the Klaxon button in the conning tower. The PO of the watch
would perhaps repeat Diving Stations over the Tannoy but I don't recall
anything other than the loud Klaxon and certainly no passing of the
"word" from compartment to compartment, a study of the layout reveals
this makes little sense. In the noisy engine and motor rooms substantial
red lights would also flash. The matter of finding No 1 battery tank sump having water and oil is
briefly raised again with the important statement that after the
exercise and further exercises in Portland, the AFFRAY would be going
back into Portsmouth Dockyard for further maintenance work because of
what to me would be a disturbing indication of something wrong. Its
difficult to imagine what kind of deferred maintenance could deal with
what I believe had to be seen as flaw in the containment of the
battery tank surrounded by fuel oil and water tanks unless proven
otherwise. On the face of the information given in the book, there
was an altogether a rather cavalier approach to the well being of a
major item in the submarine. However without the dockyard technical
reports we cannot know what those responsible thought or what they
found and perhaps needed remedial work. In a book vigorously investigating the loss of the AFFRAY with
suggestions of cover-ups and the like, it is most unfortunate that while
the author mentions the No 1 battery problem several times with the
implication that this was a serious matter, he fails to take the matter
beyond the second hand gossip of people who had no real knowledge of
what was thought to be wrong. If there is no archival data he should
have said so and asked a present day submarine engineer to have look at
the drawings and pass an informed comment as he has done with Commander
Tall in a later chapter on other matters.
SUBSMASH
The only comments I can sensibly make about this chapter are personal.
My wife to be was sat in the dentists chair, when the family dentist
who had heard the report on the radio asked her tentatively what submarine
I was on. She knew I'd been trying to get a berth on AFFRAY but that I was
destined for TRUNCHEON. Still she couldn't be sure and was glad to
confirm I was not aboard AFFRAY and pier head jumps were part of the
risk of being in Spare Crew if someone took ill and the TRUNCHEON
would certainly have managed without me for a while. By the time the signal SUBSMASH ONE was sent I was on TRUNCHEON and knew
little if anything of the unfolding of events. I have no recollection of
any announcements to the crew or anything like that. I have thought in old age that perhaps there were two generations in RN
submarines at that time, the men who had served in the submarine war of
WWII where there had been so many losses and younger men who grew up
reading of losses all kinds in WWII, many would have lost relatives
quite apart from personal Blitz experiences. I think a similar disaster
today would have had a much bigger impact. As it was people in the
submarine service in 1951 seemed to quickly move on as had been the case
a year earlier with TRUCULENT that happened in my second year in
submarines. Perhaps an unconscious attitude of acceptance prevailed that
most people now bring to the endless reports of appalling car deaths and
injury. The comment that the First Lieutenant of the Affray Derek Foster made to
his wife that the boat wasn't seaworthy etc, is repeated in this chapter
and continues to bother me. In the three plus years I was married while
in submarines neither my wife or I recall my ever expressing any concerns
that might worry her, the separations were bad enough for a young woman
alone in a flat and later with a baby, but as we used to say 'Up North'
in England, "there's nowt funnier than folks".
Wednesday 18 April 1951
COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH AFFRAY.
Further to the author's personal exchange with friend who was a boy
sailor (boy seaman), in this chapter the author tells us that Admiral
Raw was directing operations from HMS DOLPHIN. Otherwise this chapter is entirely given to various aspects of the
search and the possible hull tapping signals beyond my knowledge and
ability to comment upon.
THE FLAME BURNS LOW.
Similar to the previous chapter with press asking questions to which the
Admiralty had no useful answers.
HEARTFELT SYMPATHY, PERSONAL EFFECTS, INVENTIONS AND VISIONARY
SUGGESTIONS.
The title pretty well conveys the content of this chapter.
ONE OF THE GREAT UNFATHOMABLE MYSTERIES OF THE PRESENT TIME.
Captain Shelford RN, the salvage expert flown in for Malta is reported
in the book to have said to the Admiralty that she could have lost trim
almost immediately and sunk to the bottom etc Another of his
speculations was that she could have been hit submerged, perhaps
snorting at night. Other submerged submarines have been hit with very severe observable
damage and survived so it seems unlikely the Affray was hit if the
divers saw no obvious damage, of course Shelford could have been
referring the snort mast but this also showed no damage indicating a
collision. I have a photograph of the TACTICIAN with forward damage by
surfacing under a merchant ship, so bad its hard to believe she could
have survived, my friend who was aboard that day many years ago tells
that it
was just luck the pressure hull was not pierced.
"The possibility that some mishap occurred when the submarine was
practicing embarking her foldboat through the fore hatch and the
submarine dived suddenly causing the boat to flood through the conning
tower and fore hatches, was also considered."
As I recall there were two men to a foldboat, ergo two boats, the book
confirms this and there most certainly was only one angled fore hatch
used to get the foldboats on deck, in fact the torpedo loading hatch. It
was something of tight fit and the foldboats had to assemble on the
casing before launching. Launching from the after torpedo loading hatch
would have been possible, its actually not confirmed where the
foldboats were stowed and then launched, in our case it was forward.
Thus all the obvious culprits were up for consideration before she
was found. The Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty, James Callaghan reporting
to the House concedes that the numbers aboard exceeded the normal
complement by ten. This additional number would make no difference to
the possibilities of escape. Well that's true, the chance of escape was
minimal for anybody as discussed elsewhere. Sabotage is raised by one of Callaghan's aides without any conclusions,
not surprising at this point. More on escape later in the next
chapter. The author devotes several pages to the detail and history of the Trust
Fund established for dependents. It does seem to raise questions that
should be asked and answered.
Sunday 22 April /Monday 23 April 23 1951.
NO ESCAPE WAS POSSIBLE BY ANY MEANS
This chapter starts by stating that the Admiralty announced on 22 April
1951, that all 'A' class submarines would be prevented from going to sea
until further notice. Pending further investigations. A very surprising
statement was included "Construction of thirty more submarines at Cammell Laird's yard at Birkenhead was also put on hold" This is
nonsense; no new RN submarines were on order anywhere. There was only
the HTP work at Barrow and the first 'T' class conversion was just
about to start at Chatham. The Admiralty simply didn't have the money for any submarine
construction at that time of austerity. All the orders for further 'A' class were cancelled at war's end. The
incomplete hulls of the ACHATES and ACE were at Devonport Dockyard in
1948, I actually saw them in their rusty state. Later they were used in
deep water crush experiments. There is a long statement about how if the 'A' class were two thirds
flooded they would likely heel over preventing escape. Otherwise a check
on the design revealed a satisfactory submarine in all operational
circumstances. And I remind readers this was confirmed by another twenty
years of satisfactory service in the RN. The author gives more search detail and concludes the chapter repeating
the ban on the 'A' class leaving port and that Callaghan conveniently
avoided mentioning that that it would be impossible to escape at more
than 300 feet. This is a rather harsh judgement by the author when it
was not known where the submarine lay and why upset the relatives for no
purpose. I particularly object to his view that, "this was too much information
for hundreds of submariners about to return to 'A' class submarines and
dive beneath the waves". Well this young submariner of the time had no
illusions about how difficult escape would be from any submarine at any
depth and avoided the 1953 100 ft tank as being more of a risk than
going to sea in the boats. Most of the time we operated in areas where
the ocean depth exceeded the crush depth of the submarine. The TRUCULENT
sinking a year earlier brought home to those high and low in submarines
that DSEA was not a satisfactory system and plans were afoot in 1951 to
bring in thermal suits and new techniques that did not involve the use
of oxygen. The loss of the THETIS in 1939 made all the problems well
known but not unreasonably put aside in WWII. Even with all the advances
of today, escape is a dodgy business and specialised submersibles have
been developed that avoid the crew of a sunken submarine being exposed
to the difficult pressurised environment of escape through the sea. But still today, if the
submarine sinks in deep water there is not hope and the end will be
quick. As was appears was the case with Israeli DAKAR, the former HMS TOTEM
and coincidentally commanded by Captain Coote mentioned earlier in the
commentary, when she was in the service of the RN. Though the
scattered remains of the DAKAR were eventually found in very deep water,
it really isn't known what happened. It seems clear she was snorting.
However a different design to that of the AFFRAY, no others of this 'T'
class were lost and converted or not, served for many years as did the
'A' class. The French Navy has been unfortunate in losing submarines. In
1952 the French submarine SYBILLE (formerly HMS SPORTSMAN), simply
disappeared 38 miles off Toulon also the Minerve (27-01-68) and the
Eurydice (04-03-70) sunk off Cape Camarat for unknown reasons.
THE UGLY DUCKLING.
Some detail of the Memorial Service 2nd May, but mainly about the
salvage vessel RECLAIM and the remarkable efforts involved in finally
finding the AFFRAY. Also the conflicts with the famous Buster Crabbe. I
leave others more knowledgeable to review this aspect of the disaster.
CHAPTER 13
May - June 1951
THE BROKEN SNORT.
More on the RECLAIM and the first deep sea diving down to the AFFRAY.
The radar mast is up as is the 'look out' binocular scope. "The four
escape hatches were found shut". I was left unclear what this meant,
there were three dedicated escape hatches, two angled torpedo loading
hatches forward and aft, the gun hatch and the conning tower hatch.
Were all clearly shut? Forward planes were at 30 degrees rise and the aft planes at 25 degrees
rise. More on this in the Inquiry pages. The book says "AFFRAYS main motor telegraphs on the bridge were
photographed at 'STOP' showing someone in the engine room had
anticipated a violent impact on the seabed". This is one of the more disconcerting aspects of the book where
ignorance of the procedures has allowed unjustified conclusions and I
will comment at length. The telegraphs on the bridge Port and Starboard are obviously only used
when on the surface, particularly when manoeuvring in harbour on
electric drive. The whole, entirely mechanical rod and gear system for say the Port side
consisted of an order transmitter with substantial handles in the
control room by the helmsman, with similar but not identical order
transmitters on the open bridge. There was a repeater in the engine room
and an identical repeater in the motor room. The orders consisted of STOP, SLOW, HALF and FULL, STANDING CHARGE, with
ASTERN on an inner arc (red letters all on a black background), then
SLOW, HALF and FULL, IN Engine clutch with AHEAD on an inner arc (white
letters on again on a black background). NOTE. I have no recollection of
the STANDING CHARGE order ever being used. This was usually a procedure
alongside to charge the batteries with the propeller shaft disconnected
by means of the tail clutch. I see in an old photograph of what I
believe is AMPHION, the PORT engine room telegraph simply has blank
sector where STANDING CHARGE label had been. Speculating, it may have been a hang over from happier days before the
submarines was made vulnerable on the surface by radar and aircraft. For reasons that I can only guess at, provision was made to disconnect
the bridge telegraphs by means of pins in the rod drive systems. Whether
it was common practice to remove the pins when submerged I don't know. There was also an electric telegraph for the motor grouping, parallel
armatures or series for different speed ranges. As a matter of
interest, on the Klaxon sounding, once he had confirmed the engine
clutch was out, shown by its mechanical indicator, the Electricians Mate
would set the motors at half ahead Group Up without waiting for the
telegraphs. This would give a fairly fast initial speed for diving.
As I recall, in good conditions we would sometimes dive on the watch
(no diving stations, no klaxon, no waking the crew, or the skipper)
just the control room using the telegraphs to shut down the engines and start
the electric propulsion. If the engines were stopped by the
telegraph command, the engine clutch was taken out as a matter of
course to allow the motors alone to be used to drive the propellers. There was an electric telegraph between the
control room and the engine room for setting
engine rpm.
So the mechanical telegraphs on the open bridge shown at STOP could mean
nothing if the connecting pins were removed while dived, but if they
were in place and if everything was normal in the submerged submarine
then a STOP command makes little sense as in my experience rarely if
ever, did both motors stop completely when dived else way was lost and
depth keeping made very difficult. BUT if something was seriously wrong
while snorting, the STOP could have been the initial order to the
engines that should have been followed after a slight pause by ordering
HALF AHEAD or whatever to the motor room, all in one wrist action. In
the engine room once the engines was stopped the ERA would automatically take out
the hydraulically controlled engine clutch, thus allowing the
Electrician's Mate to set the motors to whatever was now on the
telegraphs. One can postulate that the telegraph operator only got to
STOP before being unable, for whatever reason, to go to the other two
orders that would give ahead way to the boat. It should also be remembered that the watch ERA had the authority to
slow or stop one or both engines to keep the vacuum in the submarine
within the specified limits. this action was taken as required
regardless of the telegraph setting. Another explanation is that boat was going AHEAD on motors when the trim
was lost with a resulting steep bow down angle and then the telegraph
action could have been intended to put the boat ASTERN, an action that
simply takes way off the boat. Again the intention could have been
halted at STOP by some unknown event in the control room. If my recollections are
correct, the operating of the both telegraphs was usually done with both
hands simultaneously. I have been in this situation with an 'A' boat a number of times. On the AMPHION we gradually got into so steep an angle the stokers were sliding
down the engine room gangway and the Electricians Mates in my charge
barely hanging on. I took a decision and told the EMs to put her astern
for a short while, hoping for the best in a very white knuckle situation
that appeared to be just getting worse and not a lot happening to put it
right. The telegraphs never moved from Half Ahead and nothing was said
later, if indeed anybody in the control room noticed the rpm counter was in the
red for a short period. I have no direct knowledge as to how we got into
this situation but planes sticking was later mentioned in the Chief and
POs mess. I have since found out my action is a procedure set out in the USN submarine hand book of 1946 for dealing with large bow down angles.
The fact is we simply don't know why the telegraphs on the bridge were
at STOP. Moving on, someone called Marshall Pugh is mentioned on Page 106. He was
writing in the Daily Mail (undated but assumed 1951), apparently a close
friend of Commander Crabbe who as far as I can see from the book
contributed little to the fine work of the people on the RECLAIM. Pugh
told the public that senior submarine officers had formed a theory about
what happened to the AFFRAY. In public they said nothing. In private
their beliefs were never shaken. The core of the theory was the snort cracked and water flooded in the
submarine through the intake valve at the base of the mast etc, well
elsewhere I describe that the valve was not at the base of the mast
though this merely demonstrates ignorance of the layout, not the
flooding. What concerns me about these anonymous senior officers is the nature of
their description of what might have happened in the submarine. It
crosses my mind that these submarine officers with their expert
knowledge could have contributed greatly to the Inquiry. They talk about an arduous patrol to come, well that was unlikely
considering the stated object was to take it all quite steadily for just
7 days with a night off in Falmouth. We have been through the oft
repeated slack picture of a snorting submarine with all off watch crew
asleep and dismissed that scenario.
In my opinion they had no right to
boost their simplistic theory by suggesting one of the Affray's ERAs who
had the critical watch, might well have just wandered forward when the
snort mast broke and before the stoker could close it he would be
stunned or drowned. Now for the artificer they refer to (the watch ERA) to be forward as
these people suggest, he would have had to pass out of the engine room
through the water tight door into the passage formed by the toilets and
the WT cage then into the control room. I say rubbish, in all the years
I kept watch alone in a submarine motor room I never left my post and
most certainly would not have done so when snorting. I believe none of
the ERAs I worked with would ever leave the engine control platform
while watch snorting. The ERAs duty was to watch the vacuum gauge at
all times and act on his own initiative to slow or stop the engines if
the vacuum started to reach the danger mark. If he did stop the engines
he had to get the engine clutches out at once to allow the Electrician's
Mate in the motor room to start the electric motors propelling to keep
the way on the submarine. NOBODY could afford to away from their
position when snorting. In an instant the boat could lose trim and the
snort dip under the surface and close, requiring prompt action. Quite
apart from the practical difficulties of snorting, the OOW may well have
seen a possible collision situation and needed to get down to the usual
90 feet clear of any approaching ship. In Cold War extended exercises
in Northern Waters the sighting of an aircraft required instant action
to go deep out the way, couldn't wait for ERA to wander back from where
ever he has supposed to have been forward away from his post. It never
happened as far as I am concerned unless someone can prove it did. I
wouldn't have wanted to serve with someone who would leave such a vital
post without a proper relief. The CERA like the Electrician did not usually keep watches and was
available 24 hours a day to relieve the watch ERA or the Electrician's
if they needed to go the WC and always ready to deal with any technical
matters of concern to the watchkeeper. Once more we have the characters
of the many fine men in the submarine service of 1951 impugned, and
worse by faceless unnamed so-called senior submarine officers. And again
the Affray's people are unable to defend themselves at the time because
they had died serving their country and we have assume as the author
doesn't mention it, nobody spoke up for them including Flag Officer
Submarines. Disgraceful!
ENGINEERS EXAMINE THE SNORT MAST
An extract of a report dated 17 July is quoted with some detail based
on the metallurgy and welding. In general critical of the quality. According to the author the experts were unable to state if the fracture
had been caused by normal service stress or the mast receiving a blow
but took the surprising view that was a matter of little consequence.
Well I suppose it would have been seen as of consequence to all those
who had been snorting in the 'A' class and continued to do so in other
class with a double tube mast not a great deal different in structure
even if one tube was used for induction and the other exhaust. Apparently the experts thought the mast would probably not have failed
if it had been without the flaws that were found. The obvious question was and is how many other masts were also in this
state in service in the submarine fleet and was any action taking to
determine this? We are not told until briefly mentioned in the First Lord of the
Admiralty's in chapter 19 pages 144 and 145. The House was informed 1st
August 1951, apparently in closed session. CHAPTER 15
THE FIRST SEA LORD AND COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF COLLUDE.
The chapter does need to be read as a whole to see where the author is
going with all this. The setting up of a Board of Inquiry.
This chapter as can seen by its title suggests collusion in high
places. Colluding over what and why is not particularly clear.
Pre-empting the Board of Inquiry. Mention is made about the need to know if the snort induction is open
but the divers were unlikely to be able to determine this, too
difficult. The author tells us Admiralty bosses knew that a battery explosion
carried a different set of implications about British submarine design
and workmanship failure. Yet the subject does not come again in any
detail which is surprising as battery gas explosions were a long
accepted risk in diesel-electric submarines and all crew knew not to
smoke when the NO SMOKING SIGNS were put up by the electricians when
they observed the state of charge was such that the hydrogen /oxygen gas
emissions from the cells would increase to a danger level.
Chap 16, Page 118, the accident in 1950 in the TRENCHANT is mentioned in
the Board of Inquiry document. But I presume the author will reasonably
say that the Inquiry document was not made public for thirty years. TRENCHANT suffered a battery gas explosion that apparently severely
damaged the accommodations space. We surfaced to go to her aid but we
were turned back when other ships reached her first. We heard that the
heavy battery boards had been lifted by the explosion and the only
person in the accommodation space was the PO Telegraphist excused diving
stations as he had probably been awake a long time decoding and coding
messages, always a lengthy tiring business. The story went that the
battery board came up like a hinged trap door and shielded the POTEL
from burns etc. This was a well known accident and it would be surprising if
it was not mentioned in the press of 1950. There have been several gas explosions since 1951, but I don't have any
details. The real issue in my opinion of both then and now, what were the
effects of snorting on the satisfactory elimination of the gases. One
cannot smell the pure gases but the residual products can be smelt and
the presence of these made me, in later years as the Electrician, take
great care that the battery ventilation was running properly when
charging. As batteries have got bigger and snorting extended in modern
boats of the sixties, the rules have become much more stringent. However
I recall no occasions where we charged to the point where the cells
gassed severely when we were at sea. Lengthy overcharging was usually
confined to harbour with hatches open and few people in the boat. It is notable that modern USN documents state the gas emission changes
with barometric pressure and thus snorting pulling vacuums can increase
the gas. More on this in later chapters.
THE BOARD OF INQUIRY INVESTIGATES.
The memo from the C-in-C setting up the Board of Inquiry is reproduced
apparently retyped for clarity. To commence at Fort Blockhouse (HMS DOLPHIN) 1000 on Wednesday the 27th
day of June 1951 - etc. The board met privately. The author tells us the now unclassified document can be seen at the TNA
Kew was the PRO. Trenchant battery gas explosion in 1950 is mentioned. Though the
question of whether TRENCHANT came close to being lost and why, is
apparently not discussed. The loss of the USS CONCHINO in 1949 would perhaps be in the minds of RN
submarines officers. The only description of this loss I have is in the
book BLIND MANS BLUFF that seems to indicate a complex battery failure,
not a simple gas explosion. This
GUPPY GII
conversion that had a different and larger battery set up than
the AFFRAY. In poor sea conditions the submarine battery fire became
unmanageable and she was abandoned with the only loss of life being
one civilian 'spook' and six men from the rescuing submarine. It
seems she actually sank due to taking water through the open aft
escape hatch.
In an investigative book like this I did wonder why the author did not
pursue whether masts on other submarine were tested for stress material
fatigue? It would not be difficult to have taken metallurgy samples.
Later in the book there is a sentence in the First Lord of the Admiralty's
speech to the House indicating further testing on other submarines. page
145. I ask what did the Board of Inquiry mean by "The submarine was
therefore, not at the maximum state of alertness"? How did they come to
this conclusion about a postulated lack of alertness while snorting? It
had to be entirely based on supposition and suggests to me they really
didn't understand the nature of watch keeping in a snorting submarine.
Did they ask anybody? The Board somehow managed to discern the time of the disaster was
somewhere between 0500-0700. The watch would have started at 0400 and
we can sure they had not been exposed to lack of sleep having not been
very long out of harbour and would have slept until 0400, hardly
demanding for all these young fit men. And in my view the 1200 to 0400
watch was always the worst, actually snorting brought a bit of life
into an otherwise boring routine submerged on battery or bowling along
on the surface with diesel engine pounding away. In my experience it was difficult not to be alert when snorting and the
ERA knew his duty was to keep a close watch on the vacuum gauge and act
if the gauge reached the danger point, the stokers had to be ready to
quickly shut the exhaust valves as the engines slowed down. The
Electrician's Mate had to watch for the hand signals from the ERA that
he was going to shut down thus the running or floating charge would have
be disconnected and when the engine clutches were out, start motoring.
Losing the trim and the snort head below the surface was not uncommon
even in fair weather and in any significant swell made occasional shut
downs likely, nothing to encourage slackness. Taking another tack, what possible difference could it make if the
supposed mast snapping took place when the crew were closed up for
diving stations. It all hinged on realising (hearing) the water was
flooding through the main induction at a fast rate. Arguably an engine
platform crowded with all the engine staff for diving stations would
have not been the best circumstances for early detection of the flooding
taking place with only a short time to close the hull induction or the
emergency flap valve with a quick decision to make. If in doubt about
what was happening, the ERAs would fatally await an order from the CERA
or the Engineering Officer who quite likely would not be standing in an
ideal position to detect and immediately understand the cause of the
noise or other evidence of flooding, an incident beyond anybodies
previous experience. The report also stated "As a result a 14 inch hole was suddenly open
direct to the sea, flooding the engine room". Not quite the gaping
hole in the hull implied. The hull induction valve was part of the construction of the original
design in the 14 inch trunking from the open induction inlets on the
bridge. It was not an additional piece of kit for snorting and was
located in the forward part of the engine room where the engine control
platform is located. In the snort conversion, between the valve and the
root of the snort was the large circular water separator with rather
complex 'plumbing'. The snort mast was in fact twin tubes finally
brought together as two separate pipes entering the separator under the
casing aft of the bridge that has a single outlet pipe along the
pressure hull to an external valve that can operated from inside the
submarine. The output of this valve goes to the critical induction valve
that is the subject of speculation. There is another external valve,
again operated from inside the submarine.
These two external valves
determine whether the induction air comes from the snort mast or the
open bridge induction inlets. I do not know the state
of these two valves when the submarine was secured for deep diving, but
unless open they would be subject to maximum sea pressure if the short
section of pipe to the hull induction valve was not flooded. The obvious
thing would be to open both of these valves and flood the system up the
hull induction valve. All this kit is hidden within the casing and I would imagine that even
today getting some sort of X-ray or Ultrasound machines inside the
casing to check if the valve is open would at this depth, be quite
difficult and most likely involve first removing a portion of the casing
(upper deck). This is not to diminish the seriousness of the sudden snapping off of
the mast but I do wonder if the flow calculation took into account the
restriction of the 'plumbing' and what depth was assumed and therefore
the pressure. Further to the crew alertness in the engine room mentioned in the
report, did the Inquiry consider the 'A' class as designed without
snort? The drawings show the 14 inch piping from the two always (no
valves) open induction intakes on the inside port and starboard of the
bridge and joined together in a 14 inch trunking from the bridge, then
going to the hull induction valve through to the engine room. These
submarines were built for fast surface speeds to transit the wide
Pacific, indeed one of the shortcomings of the WWII 'T' class was the
lack of surface speed to catch up with targets, one not shared by the 20
knots USN Fleet Submarines who would go round a convoy to get ahead
to then dive and be ready in a good position to attack.
The 'A' class was originally trialled at 18.5 knots on the surface.
The expectation of the captain while transiting at high speed, would one
be supposes, on the sighting of an enemy aircraft or ship, to get as
deep possible as quickly as possible. I never timed our diving on the
klaxon, I was either too busy getting to my diving station from forward
to aft through the crowded control room or alone on watch responding to
the klaxon waiting for the ERA to stop the engines and take out the
clutches to allow me to set up half ahead group up (as described
elsewhere re telegraphs). The busy ERA would I suppose, have get the
induction hull valve closed as soon as the engines stopped before the
submarine still with good way on her, flooding the ballast tanks with
planes to dive, quickly went below the surface to the point where the bridge
induction inlets were flooded. Looking at some data for other RN
submarines I estimate the 'A' at speed, on the Klaxon, with the Quick
Diving tank flooded could get to periscope depth in 60 second. The ERA and his stokers might
have 30 seconds from the klaxon before the bridge induction inlets got
below the surface and getting deeper as the upper part of the bridge and
the high periscope standards finally submerge. It is useful to count
out seconds when considering how long it takes to do things, 10 seconds
is long time in some circumstances. I have been advised that WWII
submarines, including U-Boats were often on the surface hull down, that
is with ballast partially flooded, ready for a quick dive in 30 seconds.
Contrast this to normal snorting where there was a warning vacuum
sensation in the ears, the big vacuum gauge and an automatic snort head
valve shut to normally give him time to get the hull valve shut if going
deep. And snorting, the engines would be relatively slow with no super
chargers engaged. My point is the alertness required was fundamental to
the design and operation of the 'A' class submarines as designed in WWII
without snort. And the Board should have recognised this, not allowed vague suggestions
of engine room staff slackness without any justification. And the
suggestion of lack of alertness had to apply to every submarine in the
Fleet as there was nothing to suggest engine room staff slackness was
peculiar to the AFFRAY. If the Board of Inquiry's report was seriously accepted by the Admirably
then they could not in all conscience have allowed the submarine fleet
to carry on snorting in the same old way far into future, even with
strengthened masts, a repeat of the reports assumptions about the
AFFRAY could easily have happened in the future by the snort head or
mast hitting a submerged log or similar object. Unless they really
didn't believe the proposed disaster scenario. I think the book overlooks that we were in engaged in the Cold War and
the 'A' class were the front line boats, until the first 'T' class
conversions slowly appeared, then in 1958 the PORPOISE class, into the
sixties followed by the 'O' class. The one significant change in the new
or converted submarines was that the length of the unsupported snort
mast was reduced by being telescopic supported by a high fin. As
previously stated, only in 1968 were major changes made to the whole
system and were applied to two RCN 'O' class. The fin was a natural progression in submarine design but it is worth
noting that the basic USN snorkel conversion included installing a sail
or fin following the lead of the innovative German WWII Type 21 Electro
Boat, thus the USN never went through a phase of using a derivation of
the basic U-Boat folding snort mast as did the RN. But this is not to
criticise the RN, simply different submarines and that the
GUPPY
program was producing a sail (fin) design that would fit any of the
many Fleet Submarines that were available for various types of
conversion. Also about 1958 a programme commenced to convert the 'A' Class to have a
telescopic mast with high fin. The plumbing was simplified by removing
the old bridge induction inlets and the associated bridge/snort
induction selection valves. The snort mast used on the surface or
snorting. The circular water separator was replaced by an in-line
helix dryer. All this about seven years after the disaster and then part of a
streamline programme for the 'A' class giving them a long service life. This chapter needs to
be read in full to get some understanding of the
Inquiry proceedings. Serious students would need to get a copy of the
original full report.
THE BOARD CALLS WITNESSES.
Largely witness's Testimony and needs to be read in full. Commander (S/M) Stanley HMS DOLPHIN Page 124 goes into the leaving of
the EA ashore that I have discussed in much detail earlier but it is
worth stating again that the Commander's statement is at odds with my
personal experience at the time performing electrical work on four
submarines over six years. Two A class. Two older T class. In that time
I have no recollection of any contact with the depot ship electrical
repair section let alone any call upon their services. I would suggest a
submarine would have to suffer a major incident, say an electrical fire
damaging a switch board before needing depot ship electrical repair
services. We were perhaps just lucky and didn't have to call on this
back-up service.
A point of interest is Leading Seaman Goddard's comment Page 127 about
the Leading Electricians Mate Wood telling him he (Wood) had found water
in the No 1 battery sump and there was possibility of the refit being
extended. On Page 24, EA Duncombe reported on the 6th of April to the
1st Lt of finding a mix of water and oil in the sump, he kept the waste
used to mop up the mix to show the Engineer Officer the next morning. Wood's find is not dated but if these two incidents were separated
by some days and each time the sump was dried out then the possibility
of more leaking, was in my view, very serious and without some
explanation there seems to have been casual attitude towards this
problem by all responsible. Goddard further states that the Captain
Blackburn told the assembled crew, without explanation, they might be
going back into the dockyard after the exercise, no firm reason is
given. Goddard confirmed to the Inquiry that the battery sump oil was
the only problem of he which was aware.
There is a serious error on Page 130 Reginald Clarke was the Engineer
Officer of ARTEMIS for all the time I was aboard 1950 - 1951, not the
Captain. The extracts of his testimony about the water in the air coming down the
induction mast are interesting. This would be when the snort head valve
was clear and open. Far from me to suggest this highly qualified and
experienced officer was wrong in anyway but I do draw attention to the
substantial circular water trap that was fitted in the casing, in the
induction line for extracting spray drawn in with the air. Some years
later this was replaced with a helical dryer. Any water in the separator
that was in the main induction line coming down from the snort head
above the surface, was drained by a substantial pipe into the control
room Tundish and could seen in a sight glass before being drained into R
tank. Similarly, into the same Tundish was a drain from the induction
valve in the engine room with its own sighting glass in the control
room. Obviously Clarke is saying that the separator was not always completely
effective. He also talks about a stern down angle and bilge water
accumulating in the aft of the engine room causing a stern down angle. However the amount of water per second could hardly be very high else
there would be no air passage in the induction system and a dangerous
vacuum drawn in the submarine. This situation would apply to all 'A'
class. As I clearly recall the only time we had a severe stern down angle with
water accumulating at on end one ARTEMIS was in 1950. There was a modest
depth of water in the long bilge of the 'A' class Engine Room and it
only needed a stern angle to get quite a lot of water at one end, a
consequence I would say of bad depth keeping rather than the cause. But
that's just my uneducated view as a young Electrician's Mate. Why it had
been allowed to accumulate I have no idea, but the ballast pump was
there to pump out at any depth. With a significant stern down angle there was enough water to just
submerge the low lying steering motor and the Reducer (a special MG
set), water that had accumulated in the after auxiliary space low down
between the shafts. Once the salt bilge water was clear we (the
electrical staff) hurriedly flooded the machines with distilled water
and CTC such that we were badly affected by the fumes in the confined
space and as we had surfaced were taken up the conning tower for some
fresh air. There was not really a lot of water, well below the hatch
from the motor room to the lower space with no risk of flooding the main
motors above shaft level. But it didn't take a very large amount of
water aft to affect the trim. The engine room was a long compartment with no dwarf bulkheads to stop the bilge
water swilling about, but is full of machinery including the two large
engines that looking at the drawings today I would have thought would
restrict the swishing from one side of the boat to another as Engineer
Officer Clark states. On occasions, I spent time down there checking and
cleaning the commutators and carbon brushes of the three main engine
water circulating pumps. But memory of detail is hazy, it was along
time ago and I wasn't surveying the bilge construction, just wriggling
round the obstacles to get at the pump motors. A study of drawings would
be more rewarding for those interested in what really is not major issue
as I see it. It must surely have been a situation anticipated by the designers and if
not, reported to them as unsatisfactory by the submarine engineering
officer's experiencing these problems at sea. I note that in the late
fifties 'A' class streamline conversions, the No 5 fuel oil tank forward
in the engine room has been divided into two with fore and aft parts.
With the aft part still No 5 fuel tank (reduced in size) and the fore
part divided longitudinally with one half described as the SNORT DRAIN
TANK and the other as OILY BILGE TANK. Stating the obvious, the ingress and accumulation of sea water as part
of the induction of engine air would be progressive not instantaneous
and anticipated by the snort system designers by their including a water
separator and substantial drain into R tank under the control room.. I guess this dissatisfaction with this whole system may be one of the
reasons the RCN later in 1968, brought the main induction into the
control room
straight into collecting tank and into the R trimming tank amidships, less of a trim problem.
We also took in a lot of water down the conning tower hatch when on the
surface in bad weather that had to be contained in a large canvas (say
10x12x2 feet) birdbath that was pumped out to "somewhere" using the main
ballast pump line that ran the length of the boat. See page 132 and
former captain Lt Temple-Richards evidence Page 134 In evidence given by Lt Robert Camplin of HMS ACHERON he told
the Board about the consequences if a battery explosion occurred. In the
brief extract it is a little hazy what he means as the system was
arranged to be split so that power can be taken from the battery not
affected by the explosion. The emergency electrical system was quite
comprehensive and Lt Camplin's very bleak view does not fit with system
as I recall and is detailed in the ALLIANCE book. Captain S/M Browne comments
on Page 136 confirm without doubt that the
submarine was not considered fully operational in a manning sense, but
justifies the decision to proceed on this exercise, my view is that I
would likely have joined her from spare crew and would have found the
situation quite safe, especially as my former ARTEMIS First Lieutenant,
Kirkwood was aboard. The question of crowding depends particularly how
the trainees were to be organised in groups for experience. However had I known that fuel oil and water had been found on two
occasions in the No1 Battery tank with no apparent cause I might have
had second thoughts. Difficult to gauge in retrospect as an old man with
a life time of engineering and management experience. The closing paragraph states Admiral Power's conviction that the broken
snort mast, based on probability, was the most likely cause of the
accident. As I stated earlier, simply as member of the public, I am not at all
sure that the balance of probability is strong enough to come to this
conclusion, unless other masts were tested and a major fleet
modification programme commenced or the method of operation was changed
and in my experience at the time, the latter certainly didn't happen and
the former was not apparent though I cannot say that some alterations
were or were not made to the AMPHION during refit in 1953 but visually
the mast of the AMPHION in 1953 looked the same as that of the ARTEMIS
in 1950. The author belatedly introduces this point without comment on
Page 144 simply as a sentence in the extract of the First Lord of the
Admiralty's speech to Parliament 14 November 1951. What was in the
Inquiry Report on this subject is not known. However reading the Admiral's comments from a realistic political point
of view, leaves one with the impression this was making the best of a
bad job in terms of issuing a report to the Nation and the Admiralty of
some sort after an unsatisfactory Board of Inquiry where so little
positive evidence as to the cause of the disaster was presented and
somehow they had to move on and get the submarines back to sea, where
they did perform well into the seventies.
WE DO NOT CONCUR AND QUESTION OF SALVAGE OR SCRAP.
This chapter is really in two parts, first comments from three senior
people in the Navy, the most significant being from the Director Of
Naval Construction. His department were presumably the principle
designers as the submarines were built in various yards to a common
design. Lacking any other information we must assume that the post
construction design of the snort conversion must have been specified if
not completely designed by the DNC. He offers no useful suggestions
other than he does not agree with the Boards conclusions. Why was this
most important man in RN ship construction not called to give evidence
to the Inquiry? More comment from me on this aspect of the Inquiry in
Chapter 19 The Legal man's talk about a battery explosion is far too strong when
there was no evidence presented that a battery explosion could breach
the hull. It surely was possible for experts to calculate the worst case
explosive force and circumstances that might breach the hull. It is hard
for me to consider a battery explosion that would be of sufficient force
to kill all aboard without breaching the hull. Consider the large volume
of the pressure hull. While subsequent submarine battery explosions have
killed crew, no submarines have had their pressure hulls breached and
sunk. Like all the others he is quick to suggest failure of the Engine Room
crew to react properly without having a shred of evidence to support
this accusation. G. F. Maunsell (Director of Torpedo, Anti-Submarine and Mine Warfare)
who does not disclose his experience in submarines and snorting in
particular accuses Blackburn of dishonesty in believing the trial dive
out of the dockyard was sufficient to prove the boat was in good shape.
I have suggested that this was not a first dive of a completely
re-fitted boat but one merely to catch a trim in a submarine that had
been in the dockyard for several repairs that did not involve the
integrity of the hull or the main operating systems. Maunsell does not
come over well in Chap 25 according to the author he was involved in
some kind off dispute about the credit for finding AFFRAY. Again like everybody else he assumes that half crew is a serious deficit
without knowing if the key people were there and all the right places
were manned by people who knew what they were doing. He considered the
volume of evidence is against the broken snort being the cause of the
problem. But where was the volume of evidence, all that was evident was
the broken snort mast that clearly had snapped off but with no sign of
external damage with an adverse metallurgical report and that's it. See
page 170 for more about Maunsell and a fellow called Foster-Browne. Then we have the politicians and the possibilities of salvage. Also
relatives wanting salvage.
NO MARK UPON THEIR COMMON GRAVE
Some discussion about the underwater camera and Marconi. More politics
and salvage. One interesting sentence is part of a longish speech to the House by the
First Lord of the Admiralty. "It is possible that a major battery
explosion started a shock wave in her hull and this ruptured her
pressure trunking which lies amidships under the casing. Damage of this
type could have resulted in the submarine sinking on an even keel. Such
an explosion could have started a crack in the snort, which might have
then snapped off as she grounded". More on this to follow. He goes on to tell us (this for the first time in the book) that the
metallurgical condition of some parts of Affray's snort and those of two
her sister ships was below standard and that some of the welding was not
good. Tests just completed indicate that they were well capable of
standing up to all stresses other than those associated with explosive
shock. A modified form of snort has successfully passed its tests and is
being fitted to A class submarines. "Explosive shock" and its practical consequences to the structure of the
mast are not defined. Certainly to the layman the salvaged mast showed
no obvious signs of bursting damage. This is as good a point as any to mention the excellent photographs
inserted in this chapter. The close look at the break in the mast does
not suggest to a layman that the mast broke like this because of an
internal excess pressure generated by a battery gas explosion. One would
intuitively expect an explosion to cause a severe longitudinal fracture, a serious swollen crack using everyday terms. Another factor to be considered if high pressure is postulated to have
appeared inside the extended mast from within the pressure hull, the
snort head valve that in the proposed explosion scenario assumes the
submarine was submerged below periscope depth sufficient to close the snort
head valve. A look at the drawings shows a double seat valve designed to
withstand moderate submerged external sea pressure when closed, but not
a high pressure from within the mast. On the face of it, the double
faced valve (rather like a vertical spool) would simply lift with any
internal pressure breaking the simple lever to the external float. It is
reasonable to assume the actual mast was designed to cope with
considerable external pressure exerted on this long, largely unsecured
mast by moving through the sea when the submarines was making
significant forward way snorting in perhaps heavy swells That is a
laymans observation but was it even considered by the experts or did
they simply know the explosive force generated by a battery gas explosion within the submarine were never going to be
sufficient to cause this sort of damage when originating in the large
volume of the internal pressure hull of the submarine and in any case
the head valve would lift releasing the pressure. I suggest readers note
these comments when reading Lt (E) ret. Draper's theory on Page 178.
The First Sea Lord goes on further to discuss an automatic shut off
valve, but talks about a false sense of security and "it had been
generally preferred to rely on a correct drill to meet the situations". This drill is interesting, what drill?
The induction snort mast starts
flooding due a broken mast of a jammed valve with the boat losing trim
(iced head?) all you can do is shut off the snort induction valves and
blow all the ballast tanks ASAP. The former is obviously the first line
of defence. There had already been contrary evidence given Page 130 by two
experienced ERAs to whether the watch ERA or his watch Leading Stoker
would hear the water flooding down the pipe into the bilge. We know the
engines would pulling a vacuum and the ERA would watch the vacuum gauge
and feeling it in his ears, but would he realise the water was flooding
in? If he did the only drill was to close the emergency flap valve and
close the hydraulically operated induction valve.
One simple device to enable early flooding determination was apparently
not fitted until the RCN 'O' class of 1968, a simple flooding indicator
pipe tapped into the main induction with an open end into a tundish
placed in a clearly observable position. Why such simple indicators
were not discussed at the time is not explained. The RCN also had fitted to some or all of their 'O' class by at least
1968, the facility in the control room to remotely close the
hydraulically operated hull induction located the engine room. The snort
drain sight glasses were fitted in the RN submarine control rooms and
had been since well before the Affray's loss and would have shown that
the snort mast was flooded, but that really wouldn't have helped as only
the engine room people were on the spot to shut the valve.
The designers of the snort system must have given some thought to the
snort mast being badly damaged by collision with a heavy object in the
sea even ice. Surely they looked at all the possible scenarios, did
anyone ask the critical DNC Page 139 if his staff had considered all the
risk scenarios involved in snorting before completing the design of the
conversion kit? His staff might, well have considered the welding of the
vulnerable snort mast to have been on par with the pressure hull welds
and X-Rayed them. Apparently not, its all the fault of the dead ERA of
the watch! However back to the quoted paragraph of the First Sea Lords statement on
the pressure trunking, now this is an interesting topic not expanded in
the book. A class submarines had a large high pressure pipe in the
casing, it must have had the same pressure rating as the hull as it was exposed
to the full sea pressure. It pierced the pressure hull with a valve via an internal fan to No 1
battery tank and again with another valve via an internal fan to the No
2 battery tank. For harbour battery charging it terminated in a high
pressure valve in the bridge structure that opened to atmosphere. For
charging at sea there was a hull valve to an open end in the engine
room. Each battery tank had two internal air inlets set quite high above
the deck. To recap, in harbour the fans drew air into the respective tanks through
the piping system to the outlet in the bridge in harbour or at sea to
the engine room outlet, snorting or on the surface. It is clear when the
battery ventilation system is opened up at sea while submerged snorting,
if the external pipe is damaged it would have allowed in sea water
through the open hull. valves, flooding the battery tanks and flowing
through the open end into the engine room. Chlorine gas will be generated in the
battery tanks as the sea water mixes with the acid and will find its way
out of the open air inlets located aft near the galley and forward in
the accommodation space. Only the cell manufacturers and submarine designers can know if a
battery gas explosion within the large pressure hull could develop
sufficient pressure enough to burst the external large ventilation pipe
that will actually have a moderate opposing sea pressure at snorting
depth on the outside of the pipe. I don't know. Whether or not it was
damaged through some external agency was not obvious to the divers from
RECLAIM in 1951. The same battery ventilation system was used in the 1958 new PORPOISE
and the later OBERON class. Apparently the designers at the Royal Navy's
Directorate of Naval Construction did not think there was problem with
this system. However about 1968 along with other significant snort
alterations, all the battery ventilation piping was brought inside the
pressure hull in two RCN 'O' class and perhaps one or two later RN
boats. The Director had a great deal to say for himself following the Inquiry
page 139. I repeat what I said earlier, why was he not called to give
evidence at the inquiry about the whole design of the snort system and
battery ventilation? He was the man responsible for all naval ship
design. One has to wonder if the RCN suffered a dangerous but not
disastrous flooding of the induction pipe in an earlier 'O' that brought
about these extensive changes in 1968. More talk in this chapter about the difficulty of salvage. The TIMES published a Leader comment that best sums up the situation and
I suggest a read. The view is an undetermined catastrophe, but internal
in origin, exactly where it stands today. More on RECLAIM and trying to determine if the Snort hull Induction
valve was open using X Ray, they were not successful. More about dissatisfied relatives wanting to visit the site. It crossed
my mind there are many WWII wrecks around the UK with loved ones and few
if any visit them. But the Admiralty could have been more helpful, but perhaps just the
culture of the times, with the huge losses not that long ago in WWII, I
think 150,000 in the RN killed still blunting people's minds. .
SHOULD I BE IN HIS SHOES, I SHOULD ASK FOR A COURT MARTIAL
Apportioning blame has become a modern a well developed practice in all
fields of endeavour such that the complex causes that lead to accidents
are lost in finding a scapegoat(s) to feed to the media, rather than
seeking remedies that will prevent a repetition. The author thinks it
strange by November 1951 that no one was demanding the heads of the
culprits be brought before them on a platter. And here I think is the
theme of the book; seek out the culprits of 1951 now in 2007. The author states that James Thomas's Parliamentary statement
(presumably that in part on Page 144) had managed to destroy the
confidence of ordinary submariners had in their submarines. Now they don't come more ordinary than me and I never gave the AFRRAY
incident another thought once I joined TRUNCHEON in Scotland. Not until
the subject came up in a chat with our Chief Stoker when I was the
Electrician of the AMPHION about 1954. And I am not the stoic type and I
have a healthy sense of fear, as and when required by the vagaries of
life. Actually the Electric Power & Gas Industry where I found a new
civilian career was often more obviously dodgy than submarines on most
days. And talking to my wife who I married in December 1951 currently
reading the paper sitting next to me as I type this, she recalls no more
concern than she already had about the whole business. We were courting when
I was in boats and the TRUCULENT went down. My absences were of more
concern to her at that time than the thought of some disaster happening.
No doubt as it always has been so for sailors wives else they would
live a life of constant fear. Crews sitting on volcanoes, now there a dramatic statement that I doubt
ever came into the thoughts of any crew I served with but as later
events were to show there was reason for official concern. The number of
battery explosions seems to have increased, though after I had
left the service. I believe my old boat the ARTEMIS suffered one. The
interview with Commander Tall page 176 confirms increasing cases of
battery explosion without giving a satisfactory reason. Its difficult to know why the increase, as not a lot changed in the A
boats, but I can't comment further through lack of detail. However I
can only repeat, no submarine came close to being sunk due to a battery
gas explosion though sadly lives were lost. I do know carrying out
maintenance overcharging at sea was being phased out from comments in
the Electrical Manual of the Converted T class fitted with an extra
battery with all cells increased in capacity; BR 1965 dated 1953. On Page 150, we have the Navy's Head of Military Branch putting in his
two pennyworth, never heard of this position or his qualifications to
make such judgments. He goes on the make statement about a layman's view, well I have
endeavoured to explain that perhaps the layman's view is not always the
correct one. The simple process of counting heads in determining the
effective crewing was totally wrong and showed most of these self-appointed critics had no knowledge of the subject they were writing
about. If I was capable of being appalled by anything a civil servant or
politician said, I would be about the fellows quoted in this chapter.
If the navy had enough to justify a court martial for Captain Browne
they would have gone ahead. Court martial after a loss of or damage to a
ship was hardly a rarity in the RN. But how embarrassing if all the
facts had been laid out by a competent defence in a public court.
Including the perilous state of funding to the fleet and pressures to
bring the submarine force into full force for the Cold War. I recently had the dreadful case of HMS OSWALD in WWII brought to my
attention that serious readers might like to review in connection with
the blame actually and tacitly heaped on Blackburn. As far as I can see everybody and his mate in the Admiralty was
distributing written opinions with no technical evidence to back them up, quite amazing! The letter to Browne is humbug and clearly came after all the pressure
within the Admiralty by those who knew little of the submarine
realities. I suspect that if the letter to Browne had been made public
at the time, he would have insisted on a court martial and would in my
humble opinion have been found not guilty in terms of the loss of the
submarine. However I don't think anybody in the higher echelons of the Royal Navy
was going to forgive him for losing so many promising young officers,
some from naval families. That was why he was secretly and officially
criticised, not for losing a submarine and its crew. The loss of the
TRUCULENT the previous year was accepted with far less fuss The loss of
he AFFRAY and its possible causes were not the crime, putting all the
eggs in one basket was. Note From "A Submariner's Story by Joel. C. E. Blamey" 1953 AMBUSH Lt
Cmdr Geoff Bourne. Blamey as Instructor Engineer Officer took a full
class of twelve trainees. "The submarine COs were always very
co-operative and happy to carry out any special exercises considered
beneficial to trainees".
A ROLL OF HONOUR.
The role of the crew of the RECLAIM salvage vessel are quite properly
recognised for their efforts. Something about Commander Crabbe and his
subsequent fate that had nothing to do with submarines.
WE WERE NOT FIT TO GO TO SEA
More about ERA Benington and his father. Readers must evaluate for themselves what Gerald Smart has to say about
his earlier time in AFFRAY, 1948. His particular expertise is not
stated. Neither are we told what his rating was at the time he served on
AFFRAY. We are told he was a CPO at the time he was invalided out of the
RN. But the sticking of the starboard vent is worth a comment, note these
vents are amidships. We had a mishap when for some inexplicable reason
the reliable AB responsible for removing the locking pin and reporting
to the control room at large the state of the vents, failed to remove
one of the locking pins. We dived with an obvious list to starboard,
this was the first dive out of harbour. When in harbour all the vents
were pinned shut. Not a dangerous situation in calm weather, but if a
vent stuck in a heavy sea I would guess it would not be an ideal
situation. I am surprised that a single stuck amidships starboard vent
on an A class resulted in a "plunging" towards the bottom but I was not
a diving officer. The captain calling the petty officers together and asking them what was
wrong with crew is something quite outside my experience but I suppose
these strange things did happen. Shades of Mutiny on the Bounty. However
this event took place in the previous year and would seem to have no
relevance to the disaster to come when Blackburn was in charge.
IT HAPPENED SUDDENLY AND NONE OF US EXPECTED IT.
A ghost story.
WHO HAD THE RIGHT TO SEND MY FATHER TO SEA IN A DEATH SHIP?
Family and similar matters.
TAKING CREDIT AND CONSPIRACY.
Tales of knowing where the AFFRAY lay before being found. Read carefully
and note that this Captain Maunsell is the same person on Page 139 with
strong opinions contrary to the findings of the Inquiry and effectively
accuses Blackburn of being dishonest. His comments stated on Page 170 in
this chapter do not enable one to give particular credit to his views
stated on Page 139. All this is in connection with an Admiral Foster-Browne who seemed more concerned with getting disputed credit for
finding AFFRAY than what happened to her crew. Another tale appears
about Captain Shelford that does little to warm my heart. The RNSM organises a memorial service. On the same day the TIMES has the
headline "Survivor Says Navy Hushed Up Sub disaster". To be precise, the fellow interviewed was not a survivor, he just
didn't go on this trip. Lt Goddard, the man interviewed by the press, 17th April 2001, was one
of the crew left behind and at that time was a Leading Seaman and pops
up in the book on several pages. On Page 173 we find his earlier
evidence to the Inquiry, Page127 being repeated, that something was
wrong with the No 1 battery tank. He seems to have an issue about his
archived evidence. He quite properly draws attention to statements in
the House at the time that have already being published earlier in the
book and remains convinced the disaster was caused by an explosion,
battery or one of cause unstated. The author makes bold statements and draws conclusions that impugn the
reputations of men long gone but nothing new is added. Much is made of
the evidence of crew members who had served on AFFRAY, giving them
qualities and range of knowledge no crewman of the same time that I knew
would be likely to claim but there you are. The author continuing his bold line states the broken snort was a red
herring, a convenient cover for the Admiralty, suggesting at least to
me as a reader, that the Admiralty knew something that had has not ever
been revealed. He concluded it's time to consult the experts!
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE AFFRAY? A PROFESSIONAL PERSPECTIVE.
Commander Jeff Tall, OBE, MNI. RN is consulted. I am not sure snorting
in my time it was quite as debilitating as he describes, but he was in
later diesel boats when they were frequently making transits to
'Northern Waters' without surfacing there or back. Also as I have
already stated, snorting at night must been hard work in the Control
room. I have read that the Israeli DAKAR that was lost, had two officers
in the control room when snorting, presumably one for the trim, the other on the
periscope. He states, although a sign of poor maintenance, the water/oil issue was
sorted out before she sailed. Unless I missed something, nowhere in the
book did I see anything that told the reader that the dockyard or the
boats engineering staff had determined precisely why the battery tank
had oil and or water in the sump, possibly on two separate occasions,
that is not all clear lacking a date for one of the inspections. I cannot see how poor maintenance could be attributed to the detection
of the oil/water. To the contrary the inspection of the sump that
involved climbing down into a confined machinery space indicated to me a
good standard of inspection maintenance. Did Commander Tall, with access
to the RNSM archives know something the author didn't? I have already
discussed at length in notes to earlier chapters that I feel that unless
there was firm evidence of significant seepage through the seals of the
battery covers that formed part of the deck in the accommodation space,
then the sump samples indicated some fault with the tank itself and had
to be determined and rectified to the satisfaction of the senior
officers who would declare the submarine seaworthy. In his final answer Commander Tall dismisses any suggestion of a
conspiracy theory in regard to the stated purpose of the exercise. He
also casts doubt on the AFFRAY would be carrying out a gassing charge so
soon after leaving harbour, an important point if a battery gas
explosion is to be considered. Former Leading Electrician's Mate Mike Draper, later an Engineering
Lieutenant retiring in 1990 puts forward a theory. At the time he would
be in much the same position on AUROCHS that I was on ARTEMIS,
just a few months senior I think. A small aside, he says his friend on
AUROCHS, was John Denny, the PO Electrician lost on the AFFRAY. Another
senior crew member with 'A' class experience. The fact that he was
Acting Electrician means nothing as it took two years to be confirmed
but the full duties of a Petty Officer in the RN expected to be carried
in all circumstances, else how could they judge one's performance? I was
indeed Acting Electrician on the AMPHION and in a young man's game, was
an experienced submarine electrical NCO. I think he is stretching a long bow with his scenario. He says the
AFFRAY batteries were due for a long equalising charge. Its a long time
ago but I have checked the PORPOISE handbook and this charge continued
for up to 7 hours, well beyond the normal point when the battery was
determined as being charged. I think ideally on monthly basis if the
operations allowed it. Certainly the charge continued for several hours
in the gassing part of the charging cycle, to get rid of sulphate in the
cell plates and as the name suggests brings all 112 cells in each
battery up the same voltage and specific gravity. Frequent SG samples
were taken. It is recommended that the battery ventilation system is
left running for at least one hour after the charge was completed. In
Draper's scenario this was many hours before the boat actually sailed. He suggests the long charge was carried out over the weekend prior to
the exercise and therefore would likely have been finished no later than
Sunday, in fact possibly late Saturday evening. The emission of the
potentially dangerous hydrogen from the battery ceases fairly quickly
after the charging current is removed and the start to dissipate through
the fan driven battery ventilation system through the outlet on the side
of the conning tower, also hatches would be open, certainly the fore
hatch. The AFFRAY did not sail until 1600 on the Monday; any gases would
be long gone. She would then make passage on the surface on the diesel
engines pulling some induction air down the conning tower hatch through
into engine room. The passage would at least two hours and as the patrol
was stated to start at 1800, it would be four hours with no doubt bridge
and engine instruction for the trainees. A running charge would be put
on to carry the auxiliary load and perhaps a small charge into the
battery to compensate for the modest amount of power used to supply the
electric motors while manoeuvring the boat away from DOLPHIN into the
main harbour.
Battery ventilation would in this case be running until the submarine dived
sometime after 1800. The theory suggests AFFRAY was snorting in the
early hours of Tuesday morning, when the disaster occurred caused,
according to Draper, by the back fire of the engine igniting the
lingering hydrogen gas. I dispute his scenario as there would have had
to been of a significant level of gas (as I recall 3% by volume.) to
cause an explosion and was clearly not the case if the equalising charge
was carried out in harbour, the most likely place if one was carried out
and having being the dockyard so long, a sensible battery maintenance
action. He states the induction hull valve was wheel operated, as I recall it
was hydraulically operated and so the ALLIANCE book shows it to be but
Draper tells us this was a post disaster modification. But on Pages
21/22 Leading Stoker William Day recalls in 1950 the oil leaking and his
impression the induction valve operating cylinder was slow. While
his recollection is no doubt correct his technical conclusion is
unlikely as the hydraulic (telemotor) pressure was in the order of 1200
to 1500 lbs per square inch. regardless his recollection, it confirms my own
that the induction hull valve was indeed hydraulically operated prior to
the loss of the AFFRAY. It is worth repeating a point I raised in Chap 16. Commonsense would
suggest a fast acting valve was needed before snort was fitted, not a
slow wheel operated device. It is of interest to note that the hull induction
valve existed in the same position prior the conversion to snort to act
as a high pressure hull induction sealing valve, the snort was merely an
additional induction inlet. Fast operation would be required in much the
same way as in snorting as the submarine dived as quickly as possible
when under attack to 90 feet and the open induction inlets on the bridge
would quickly be under water. He also states hydrogen detectors were
fitted, well not in AMPHION in 1955. The USN used Hydrogen detectors in
WWII Fleet Submarines. Overcharging at sea was obviously still taking place in the fleet
according to BR1965 published in 1953, but it states it would likely be
phased out in this particular class of submarine, the converted fast
battery T class, that had much larger batteries than those found in the
'A' class even when converted in the late fifties. It was likely the 'T'
class converted to fast battery submarines had hydrogen detectors and
perhaps burners. The 1958 PORPOISE class with very big batteries were
almost certain to have hydrogen detectors and other hydrogen management
devices. His sequence of postulated events does not equate with the practice,
the head valve closing caused a vacuum, the ERA watching the gauge sees
it fall and throttles back the engines in the hope the trim will quickly
recover and the snort head break surface and the valve will open again,
breaking the vacuum allowing the engines to be speeded up. If this did
not happen the technique was, if the state of vacuum allowed, shutting
down one engine closing the exhaust for that particular engine as the
engine slowed to stop, usually done quite slickly by the stoker. If the
vacuum did not improve the second engine was then closed down and with
the stoker closing the exhaust valve as the second engine slowed and the
back pressure dropped below the level required to keep back the flow of
sea water through the open exhaust, normally about several feet under
the water when snorting. Sometimes the timing was not quite right and
water got into the cylinders but only in the second engine leaving the
first one to be ready for a start up while the second engine was being
drained. It should be noted both engines use a common exhaust but each
with separate isolating snort exhaust valve. At this point the snort
induction valve would still be open be until the second engine has
stopped and trim was finally restored and the head valve broke the
vacuum and the gauge showed normal. If the intention was to shortly
restart snorting the hull induction valve would remain open. Apart from my own memories of snorting on 'A' and 'T' submarines, this
is all pretty much as described in the report of the long tropical snort
cruise of HMS ALLIANCE 1947 and the Arctic snort cruise of HMS AMBUSH
1948. I have no recollection of the engines back firing with flames in many
hours on watch in the motor room, part of the engine room, but of course
that doesn't mean it never happened. However I did once see the relief
valves lift and form a pretty fountain when starting the motors with
engine clutch still in due to faulty indication and the cylinders full
of water following a difficult shut down from snorting. Admiral Whetsone former submarine captain of a later era, attempts to
gives the answer to the disaster on the BBC, by stating the obvious, but
the difficulties he describes existed before the loss and afterwards
continued to exist until the last diesel submarine left the RN without
another loss. I don't recall any reduction in the lighting of the engine
room/motor room. What would be the purpose, it was the same 24 hours a
day. However if dived on battery for long periods often lights were
turned out throughout the submarine to save power and in the
accommodation space encourage people to rest on their bunks in an
attempt to reduce oxygen depletion and CO generation. At night the control room was always dim with red lighting to assist the
view of the OOW on the periscope and if surfaced the same for lookouts
going on watch. Roger Fry, who has been very helpful in my researching of the converted
T for my article, is also stating the obvious and making his own
assumptions about what was in the Admiralty's mind with nothing to
support any views other than they like everybody else didn't know what
happened and that was an unhappy position for the Admirals and the
politicians who really would have preferred something straightforward
like the TRUCLULENT disaster of the year before, despite the misreading
of the approaching navigation lights and the deficiency of the DSEA
system, soon to be abandoned, not to mention the lack of wisdom in
having a poorly lit, dark grey and black, vulnerable submarine on
passage at night in this busy waterway. And a relatively low conning
position with little or no shelter.
THE STRANGE CASE OF STEWARD RAY VINCENT.
Funny business this. He comes back aboard his ship the WOODBRIDGE HAVEN
and causes damage to the Quarter Deck. He is restrained and placed in
detention. All fairly typical of drunken sailors and their daft behaviour. But the
mystery is why he was subject to a Court of Inquiry. Usually cases like
this are dealt with formally by the Captain. If every drunken sailor
misbehaving demanded a Court of Inquiry they would many of them sitting
regularly. The rest of the tale is equally odd. However too much should not be made of the training. As I recall it was
two to three weeks with an extra week for electrical ratings, then to a
boat as an extra for training. No, the mystery is the Court of Inquiry.
As for aiding the Chef (cook) the galley was too small for more than
one. The steward's job was the collecting of the food from the galley
and serving it in the wardroom. I was always under the impression that
stewards prime job was to look after the skipper then the wardroom.
A TECHNICAL DIVER REMEMBERS HIS VISIT TO THE WRECK OF THE AFFRAY 1998.
As the title suggests.
QUESTIONS DEMANDING ANSWERS.
This is the recap chapter so little point in repeating comments already
made. However it was interesting to see the oil in the sump of No 1
battery raised again.
Re page 193, For those interested the drawings of the snort system are
still available and are also published in the ALLIANCE book. I repeat, the hull induction valve is not at the foot of the of the
snort mast located above the Control Room. It was in the engine room.
THE END
THE SUBMARINE RESERVE GROUPS.
At the time I had at best only a vague awareness of the
RESERVE
GROUPS, but they I were, I think, a consequence the need for
austerity in the Navy both before and after the war. I suspect they were
phased out as the fleet consolidated to face the needs of the COLD WAR. They were a consequence of the need to keep a number of submarines ready
for service but there were no crews and thus were in a group with one
crew. And speculating, was this perhaps a driving element in getting
the trainee officer through their course and off to appointments at sea?
Nobody was going to go into all this semi-political business at the
Board of Inquiry, the "climate of the times" always has to be understood
to follow historical events. The Reserve Groups seemed to have
disappeared by about 1952/53. As a matter of interest, the Navy had
large groups of ships like destroyers moored in the channel in places
like Devonport looked after by a handful of people. I understand battle
ships were moored in the Lochs in Scotland. A history of HMS SIDON
HMS SIDON was sadly lost in 1955 when torpedo blew up, but
here listed to show the Reserve Groups. The history was collated by Dorset Submariners who take a special
interest in SIDON and hold an annual memorial. Here is listed data that tends to confirm much of what I have suggested
in regard to the refit history of AFFRAY. Also note that the working up
patrol was no picnic. I should say I only became aware of this timeline
for SIDON on completing my book commentary that goes before.
- 23rd November 1944 Sidon was completed and commenced trials followed by
the start of working up training at the Holy Loch
- 20th January 1945 Damaged in a submerged collision with HMS/m Turpin.
Her stem cutter was turned to starboard by a length of 4 feet.
- 8th-23rd March 1945 Sidon departed Lerwick to commence her working
up patrol. This took place on the west coast of Norway on a known U-boat
track. She had difficulty off the coast of Norway obtaining a land fix
for the first 3 days. Sidon needed to take land fixes for navigational
purposes. Heavy snow and rain storms had obscured all land marks. After
3 days however, the weather cleared and all landmarks could be seen
clearly. No further navigational problems were encountered. No ships or
U-boat patrols were sighted during this patrol. The only sighting of any
enemy unit was a Luftwaffe JU-88 flying 2 miles away at a height of 200
feet. It commenced no attack against Sidon and presumably it had not
sighted her. The heavy weather made the seas rough and Sidon was unable
to maintain periscope depth. Visibility at times was reduced to zero by
the snowstorms.
- 23rd March 1945 Sidon arrived back at Lerwick after completing her
working up patrol.
- 24th March 1945 Departed Lerwick and proceeded on passage to Holy Loch
- 26th March 1945 Sidon secured alongside SS'AL RAWDAH' in Holy Loch
- April 1945 Sidon left the Holy Loch for passage to the Far East to join
the 8th Submarine Flotilla. She diverted to Fremantle to repair battery
defects en-route.
- 7th July 1945 Sidon departed Fremantle, Australia to commence her 2nd
patrol. Soon after departing, one of her engines developed a defect and
she called in at Onslow to rectify this. The patrol was mainly for
air-sea rescue duties.
- 12th July 1945 Sidon departed Onslow having rectified her engine fault.
She later passed through the Lombok Straits.
- 24th July 1945 Sidon was diverted to search for the crew of an American
Liberator which had come down off Siagon, in conjunction with USS/m
"Hammerhead" and US aircraft. After 4 days of searching she recovered
2nd Lt Stanley Reed USAAF. He had been adrift for 5 days with little
food & water. He had drifted 287 miles from the ditching position. In
the words of the patrol report, "The joy on his face when he saw
Sidon amply repaid all the fruitless searching and false hopes we
had experienced."
- 3rd August 1945 Sidon arrived at Subic Bay in the Philippines after
completing her patrol. Sidon completed her time in the Far East by being
present in Hong Kong harbour when it was reoccupied by the British after
the Japanese surrender.
- 6th December 1945 HMS Sidon arrived at Portsmouth after the completion
of her war service in the Far East.
- 27th December 1945 Paid off into Reserve Group "S" at Portsmouth
attached to the 5th Submarine Flotilla
- 28th January 1946 Taken in hand at Portsmouth for repair to armaments.
Completed 9th March 1946.
- 26th February 1948 Transferred to Reserve Group "G" at Portsmouth for
refit.
- 27th February 1948 Taken in hand for refit at Portsmouth. Completed
18th June 1948.
- 1st August 1948 Placed in Reserve Group "M" at Portsmouth.
- 19th November 1948 Taken in hand at Portsmouth for fitting ballast.
Completed December 1948.
- 24th January 1950 Taken in hand for refit at Sheerness. Completed 19th
May 1950. Post refit diving trials were successfully completed on 21st
June 1950.
- 20th July 1950 HMS Sidon towed the midget submarine "XE8" from Plymouth
to Portsmouth.
- 31st August 1950 Towed the midget submarine "XE8" from Portsmouth to
Plymouth. She also joined the 2nd Submarine Flotilla on this date.
- 19th April 1951 HMS Sidon took part in the search for HMS/m Affray
which was missing in the English Channel.
- 6th-20th June 1951 Touched bottom during phase 3 of Exercise SWX 6. The
exercise had started after leaving Portland and had ended just before
arrival at Loch Tarbart. Damage was confined to the net cutter
immediately below No's 5 and 6 torpedo tubes.
- 11th November 1951 Paid off into Reserve Group "F" attached to 5th
Submarine Flotilla Devonport pending refit.
- 21st November 1951 Taken in hand for refit and modernisation at
Devonport. This included the removal of the 4-inch gun and gun tower and
the installation of a snort mast and Type 267MW radar.
- 27th June 1952 Refit completed HMS Sidon re-commissioned into the 2nd
Submarine Squadron, based at Portland for submarine and anti-submarine
training.
"A Submariner's story" By Joel C. E. Blamey. Page 258. As commissioning
engineer officer he tells how the first trial dive out of the yard ended
up with the SIDON plunging down with a severe bow down angle striking
the shingle bottom at 158 feet. A dockyard modification had caused a
complete loss of the telemotor pressure resulting in the loss of control
of the main vents and hydroplanes and other equipment. While quite
frightening no serious damage was done.
- 30th November 1952 Taken in hand at Devonport for intermediate docking
and for fitting an escape trunk. Completed 9th January 1953.
- 1st June 1953 Attended the Coronation Naval Review at Spithead.
- 1st February 1954 Transferred to 5th Submarine Squadron pending refit.
- 9th February 1954 Taken in hand at Cammell Laird,
Birkenhead. Completed November 1954.
- 16th June 1955 HMS Sidon, commanded by Lt. Cmdr. H. T. Verry was due to
depart for a live torpedo firing exercise. She was based at Portland
using HMS Maidstone as her depot ship. All her hatches were shut except
the hatch of the conning tower. The submarine was lost.
"A Submariner's story" By Joel C. E. Blamey.
An excellent account of
service in submarines from pre-war to well into the post war period on
interest. .Just brief notes taken from the book.
He was a Commissioned Engineering
officer, and earlier a Warrant Officer serving as a submarine EO. Same
rank different names. 1946 Reserve Group RG F - Falmouth. CO released as POW Lt Cmdr Bowker
RNR, a 1st Lt. URSULA was the serviceable base ship. Otherwise they had
a full T class crew. All other submarines were waiting for scrap, no
batteries. Some of the submarines were famous S&T boats such as TORBAY,
TRIBUNE -14 in all.
I was cynically amused by Balmey talking about a problem he had reported
to DOLPHIN, saying mysteries are not very popular in the Submarine
Service, this in 1946.
URSULA even went to DOLPHIN transporting parts 'robbed' from submarines
destined for scrap.
According to data records, the URSULA was that year loaned to the
Soviets for 4 years, then returned and scrapped.
From Stoker Mechanic Albert Birchnall.
Anyway on with the history. I joined in Feb 46, and by June I was in reserve group R at Dolphin. That was Truculent, Tantulus, Thule, Thermopoly and Telemachus. We used to take different boats out on day runs (not enough to crew all the boats). At the back-end of 47 Truculent was fully commission, and we went on operation "Black current" supplying power to Pompey Dockyard, all through the bad winter of 47.
From Chief Coxswain Derek Lilliman RN (ret), 5 April 2009. VULCAN block
was the submarine crew shore accommodation at HMS DOLPHIN.
Perusal of my Service Certificates tell me I was
drafted to RGP on the 31st March 1950, which was a collection of eight
'S' boats secured up at Petrol Pier. During the day I didn't have a lot
to do with the submarines as I was duly appointed Mess Caterer under the
old Canteen Messing system so spent all my time on the ground floor of
Vulcan Block and the galley out the back. I remember pretty well that
when you were duty watch you had to troop onto every submarine and run
the Battery Ventilation System for half an hour both evening and in the
morning before 'Both Watches'. I eventually commissioned the Sea Scout
out of RGP in Mar 1951 and went down to Portland to become part of the
2nd Squadron based on the Maidstone. I also recollect that there was a RGP and a RGM in Portsmouth with a RGD in Devonport and I believe one at
Sheerness but can't recall its name. Like RGS they were a collection of
submarines with only one crew between them! I should have mentioned,
also that at least once a week and sometimes twice, one of
the boats would be taken to sea on a day run, for exercise.
As far as I can remember Peter, at least one of the
submarines in the group had a Standing Charge on all day
especially before it went out day running. As I said before
I spent most of my time being Mess Caterer, making Klacker's and Pot Mess as well as figuring out what to give
them for 'Duff'! I also remember that when the Sea Scout was
commissioned out of the group I was automatically made 'Tanky". The only
good thing about that was I got a neat tot instead of 'Two & One'
Incidentally, I don't believe there ever was any Shore Charging
Facilities on Petrol Pier and only limited on the Main Jetty in them
days.
Re a question about 'A' class -To My knowledge Lofty the answer is NO
but I could be wrong as after the Seascout and a short spell on the 'Tea
Urn' as Scratcher, I spent the next two and a half years out in the Med.
Pre-war examples These two examples illustrate that experienced
submarine commanders could be attached to Reserve Groups.
Lt Cmdr Neil Rutherford, DSC. Born 15 May 1922
- Career before 1943 deleted as of no relevance.
- 05/07/1943 - 01/1946 Commanding Officer HMS Spiteful (submarine)
- 08/02/1946 - 08/1946 HMS Dolphin (submarine depot) (for submarines)
(Submarine Reserve Group K)
- 08/1946 - 09/1946 HMS Stygian (submarine).
Taken from a Wikipedia posting but other sources seem to confirm
accuracy. Prior to an unfortunate death in later years he rose to the
rank of Admiral.
Commander HC CUMBERBATCH Born 8 December 1900
- Career before 1937 and after 1939 deleted as of no relevance.
- On returning to Britain in 1937, he took command of HMS/m OTWAY, working
from HMS DOLPHIN, which he joined on 30 August 1937. The following
month, on 25 September, he joined the Reserve Group A at HMS DOLPHIN,
moving to the depot ship HMS DWARF in July 1938.
- He returned to command HMS/m OTWAY on 26 September 1938, working from
HMS DOLPHIN, but for only two weeks, before rejoining Reserve Group A in
command.
- On 2 August 1939, he took command of HMS/m OBERON working from HMS
DOLPHIN, and then HMS FORTH (2nd Submarine Flotilla) Rosyth in the same
month, returning to HMS DOLPHIN in October 1939.
- OBERON moved again at the end of November 1939, joining the depot ship
ALECTO at HMS DOLPHIN.
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